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Granted, this is your forum, and as moderator, you have final say as to what is appropriate and what is not. But the thread _was_ about game design. I think that TheGoop made a good point. It''s possible that a thread containing a discussion of porn as it relates to game design _could_ degenerate into something completly OT. But to kill a thread just becuase it _may_ become a flame war seems a bit off to me.

I''d like to apologize to Geoff for the ''stupid'' and ''narrow'' bits of my previous post. I just get a bit touchy when it comes to censorship...

- genovov
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It doesnt really matter if it had to do with game design, its over the top from an appropriate conversation, which is all that matters.

The same conversation could have been had with different content. Im sorry if people feel they are being censored because they cant talk about the most extreme topics in someone elses forum/servers/environment, but thats life. Tone it down then it wont be unappropriate.

Basically, some people here need to treat these forums with a bit more respect. We're contributing our time and effort into creating a place that game development can be discussed, and have a very few rules and boundaries about where you cant go. Yet some people feel compelled to bitch and feel like they can do whatever they want no matter where they are.

Who but spoiled children act like this when they are getting something of benefit for free? You arent paying for the site. The banner ads dont line my pockets, I make my living writing software and any money ads make for this site just cover base expenses, with a trivial amount left over. So for all the staff's hard work we have to deal with people bitching that they cant do whatever they want here as well?

Grow up, learn some manners, and treat people who are doing things that are benefiting you with some common decency.

Some of the people on this thread have been very polite about with their questions of the situation, and others have been about as rude and abusive as you can be without breaking into a swearing contest. It amazes me daily that some people think they should have the RIGHT to subject people who provide a nice service for them in this manner.

-Geoff


Edited by - ghowland on 4/3/00 10:45:45 PM
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Mr. Howland,

I am sincerely sorry for making you feel unappreciated for the work that you do in the community. I think I had a very valid point but since the debate has turned into a fight it would be useless trying to discuss it further.

About me engaging in personal attacks against you. The only place where I see that I could possibly have been engaging in a personal attack against you is when I write that you seem to have ''personal issues'' with sex and porn in games. You later confirmed that the reason you would have stopped a
Boogie Nights thread in a movie design forum would be your personal ethics. I am sorry if my use of the words ''personal issues'' sounded like something that had to do with psychology. I merely meant ''undisclosed issues'' (I say
that they are undisclosed because I do not buy the proxy-filter-get-fired reason) and I was personally guessing ethics at the time (something that you later confirmed in your Boogie Nights comment).

Anyway, I am sorry for having wasted your time and energy (wasted, since you obviously consider me a ''troll'' and ''spoiled child'') and I will not disturb the tranquility of your forum again (massive flaming can make me forget that promise though).

Henry
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quote:
Original post by Anonymous Poster

I am sincerely sorry for making you feel unappreciated for the work that you do in the community. I think I had a very valid point but since the debate has turned into a fight it would be useless trying to discuss it further.


I dont feel unappreciated. People who are rude and immature only annoy me, as they are obviously getting a free service, but cant be bothered to act with some common decency.

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About me engaging in personal attacks against you. The only place where I see that I could possibly have been engaging in a personal attack against you is when I write that you seem to have ''personal issues'' with sex and porn in games. You later confirmed that the reason you would have stopped a
Boogie Nights thread in a movie design forum would be your personal ethics. I am sorry if my use of the words ''personal issues'' sounded like something that had to do with psychology. I merely meant ''undisclosed issues'' (I say
that they are undisclosed because I do not buy the proxy-filter-get-fired reason) and I was personally guessing ethics at the time (something that you later confirmed in your Boogie Nights comment).


No problem. Things get misinterpretted through text when there is no context.

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Anyway, I am sorry for having wasted your time and energy (wasted, since you obviously consider me a ''troll'' and ''spoiled child'') and I will not disturb the tranquility of your forum again (massive flaming can make me forget that promise though.)


Post all you like when its on topic and not just trying to start problems. If you dont like the rules of the forum, dont use them. If you think you can handle the rules of the forum without being totally put out, then continue to do so.

-Geoff
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