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loftyideals

best 3rd person action/adventure/RPG

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Hi. I''m thinking of making a 3rd person action/adventure game and I would like some opinions on games people have played that are really exceptional. When I say 3rd person action/adventure game, I mean everythign from Ikari Warriors/Smash TV to Diablo or Dungeon Seige. I''m looking for good examples throughout the ages of good gameplay. The best 3rd person game I''ve ever played is the game Oni (developed by Bungie and released by GODGames.) Any thoughts? devinmaxwell
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Oni? ONI? I bought that, and never played it after the first three levels

The most fun "3rd person action/adventure game" ever as far as I''m concerned is ''Zelda: Occarina of time''. However, the best PC action/adventure was called ''Outcast'' (Infogrames, 1999). It was largely overlooked at the time, because it didn''t use 3D cards, but made use of voxels. That meant it looked ace (for the time) but required computers with tonnes of memory and CPU power.
It was absolutely inspirational (really, it was, its the reason I''m studying to make games ), levels were huge, worlds immersive, and characters more than just plot devices... I is gettin nostalgic...
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Seiken Densetsu 3 is THE best action-RPG EVER. If it didn''t have multi-player support or a custom (sort of) leveling system, it wouldn''t be, but it has these things, and it is good.

I may not be describing this very well at all, but SD3 plays like Legend of Zelda merged with Final Fantasy merged with [insert favorite non-Zelda action-RPG here].

Using your loose definitions, another of my favorites would have to be Gauntlet, in any of its older, 2-dimensional forms.
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I throw in a vote for the Metroid games...oh wait...they are 2D SIDE view...I guess that doesn''t count

Hmm...The first time I played Tomb Raider...I couldn''t help but think that it''s engine would be great to base a 3D Metroid game on...world made of blocks, etc...swap out Lara for good old'' Sammi...change the textures and enemies around...course you''d have a lot of work to do makeing all the moves correct-n-such...but what the hell, it was 1998...didn''t know half then of what I know now
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quote:
Original post by loftyideals
Hi. I''m thinking of making a 3rd person action/adventure game and I would like some opinions on games people have played that are really exceptional. When I say 3rd person action/adventure game, I mean everythign from Ikari Warriors/Smash TV to Diablo or Dungeon Seige. I''m looking for good examples throughout the ages of good gameplay. The best 3rd person game I''ve ever played is the game Oni (developed by Bungie and released by GODGames.) Any thoughts?



Neverwinter Nights ? That''s pretty good.
I still prefer Morrowind, but that''s 1st person.
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max payne anyone.ok it might of been short but it was the best game I have played in a while. cheese heaven....

[edited by - themonkster on September 10, 2002 9:06:32 PM]
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A always thought that MDK was pretty cool, nice graphics (for the time) even on a low end machine. It had a lot of good ideas. Never got round to playing the second one though.
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My favorite (non-pc) third-person action game is Metal Gear Solid 2. My favorite third-person action game to appear on the PC is probably Jedi Knight II (the singleplayer). JKII kind of wins by default though, I am really not a gamer to a great extent.

My first thought was System Shock 2, but that isnt 3rd person at all.
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Heh, I concur about ONI being one of the best 3rd person action games ever; it has just about the most satisfying fighting system I could imagine in a game with free movement. Zelda: OoT is a brilliant game too, though.
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Oni was well done, although it had a few too many console game remnants for my liking (I played the PC version). Max Payne was enjoyable for a while, and it''s cinematic effects were very cool. I''m currently enjoying The Thing, which is a solid third-person title, although again there are many console remnants (save points, auto-aiming, etc.). Sacrifice was rather innovative, and much under-rated IMHO.

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How about Metal Gear Solid?

Jack


metal gear solid 2 : sons of liberty is the BEST 3rd person there is at the moment. i dont have a ps2 and there is no port to a pc. booohooooooo!!!!

neverwinter nights is a very good 3rd person rpg. nice and relaxing game on a boring sunday afternoon (except if you are getting your butt whiped around like a newbie).

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Adventure in Alien world:
Outcast

Infiltration:
Metal Gear Solid

Adventure in Fantasy setting:
Zelda


-* So many things to do, so little time to spend. *-
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Genius that I am, I still somehow managed to read "RPG" into the original post. Umm... I''d like to add Super Metroid and Zelda 3-5.
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MDK, the first one, was an excellent game. I still play it on occasion. I bought the second one but it sucked. Anyway it''s not an RPG or really an adventure, but it''s a third-person light-hearted shooter. But it''s a useful example of how to do the action sequences - for example, all of the enemies'' attacks are relatively slow-moving projectiles that you can dodge, and you ran quickly and jumped high.

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Metal Gear Solid 1 on PSX.
Metal Gear Solid 2 on PS2.
Devil May Cry on PS2.
Deux Ex,Thief1&2,SystemShock2,Ultima''s on PC.
Resident Evil 1 on PC.
Tomb Raider 1 on PC.

Oni is quite cool too, especially with the shapeshifter cheatcode, playing with the kung-fu-ish female model is a real bliss..
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Gothic for a hybrid action-adventure-RPG, but it could''ve had a 1st-person view too. More games need BOTH view perspectives...
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new out on the xbox is dead to rights...similar to max payne with more "hardware" and variation due to some entertaining minigames.

graphically inferior to payne and proof that mouse and keyboard is still the best control method for movement and looking. uses an auto aim to compensate.

mgs 2 is still one of the best and i too enjoyed Oni.
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