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Raymondo    100
I''m interested in making an install program for a game I am working on. I''m not much of a programmer but I thought I would help out the real programmers and get this done. Rather than using a pre-made thing like wise, I would like to make my own. Could someone direct me to a site that would have information relevent to making VB or C++ install programs? I would like to use whatever language is simplerfor this type of project. Thanks in advandce.

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Big B    337
I''d suggest you write a command line installer app in C++ (deflates the archizes to whatever directory and whatnot) and do the front end in VB. That way all the front end needs to do is call the command line app with the proper commands specified from the VB front end.

This approach would keep the front end clean, as well as the back end clean.

As for sites for doing this, your guess is as good as mine. One good site for Windows programming is CodeProject. If its a windows programming question, it can probably be answered there.


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thona    100
Just ONE advice: DONT DO IT.

Wholy sht- do you really thinkg you have a clue on how installation works? I never found a developer that really knew. MS actually DEMANDS today that an application certified for Windows (I know you dont want to be certified, but a look on QUALITY never is bad) uses Windows Installation Services.

Use THEM. If you have VD you have an installbuilder already, otherwise use whatever you can get that CREATES .MSI FILES.

Applications with their own homegrown installer are one thing I NEVER EVER install. Too many idiots out there that think just because the software works it is installed correctly.


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Thomas Tomiczek
THONA Consulting Ltd.
(Microsoft MVP C#/.NET)

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ragonastick    134
Don''t use VB for an installer (well, VB6 at least). The runtime files it needs aren''t common enough to be able to assume that everyone should/will have them. I''m not sure about .NET, but I know that it would require the .NET runtimes, which I don''t have, and many other people don''t have either.

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aidan_walsh    739
If you want to use a good, free installer that dosn''t require certified MS permissions, take a look a Clickteam''s Install Maker. The trial version is a little limited, and you have to display a splash, but it''s worth it.

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thona    100
Clickteam: GARBAGE. No other word for it - it does not use the Windows Installation Services.

Noone requires that you certify something, but why the hell should anyone NOT use the way the OS intends to install software?


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Thomas Tomiczek
THONA Consulting Ltd.
(Microsoft MVP C#/.NET)

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thona    100
MS installer sucks? How?

It is the OS standard. Live with it.

Now, ever since 6.0, Visual Studio comes with an installbuilder that supports MSI files (for download with 6.0, .net has one integrated).

Surely, FREE like in "subpar" might be a choice for you.

Me not - most of my software has to be certified to adhere to OS standard procedures and not fuck around with the system.


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Thomas Tomiczek
THONA Consulting Ltd.
(Microsoft MVP C#/.NET)

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Fidelio_    122
quote:
Original post by Raymondo
I''m interested in making an install program for a game I am working on. I''m not much of a programmer but I thought I would help out the real programmers and get this done. Rather than using a pre-made thing like wise, I would like to make my own. Could someone direct me to a site that would have information relevent to making VB or C++ install programs? I would like to use whatever language is simplerfor this type of project.



Why not Delphi ?

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Arild Fines    968
quote:
Original post by Sand_Hawk
NullSoft installer sucks too.


quote:
Original post by thona
MS installer sucks? How?



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