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I know this has nothing to do with game programming but does have a effect on hobby coders like people here who can''t afford to get their software ok''d by M$$. God if the technology actually happens to come true looks like I might have to go back to a Macintosh and hope that they don''t have to deal with Palladium. One question "wheres the freedom?". God everday M$$ moves higher on my hate meter!! My question is what will people here do when that day comes? Will you move to Linux or Mac or just throw more of your freedoms down the drain? Thanks all!

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I know this has nothing to do with game programming but does have a effect on hobby coders like people here who can''t afford to get their software ok''d by M$$. God if the technology actually happens to come true looks like I might have to go back to a Macintosh and hope that they don''t have to deal with Palladium. One question "wheres the freedom?". God everday M$$ moves higher on my hate meter!! My question is what will people here do when that day comes? Will you move to Linux or Mac or just throw more of your freedoms down the drain? Thanks all!


You _do_ know that unsigned code works fine on a palladium computer. It just can''t access the new palladium features...

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what is Palladium?


It''s a (possibly) upcoming version of Windows that would work with Intels new security initiative. Basically it would allow software (for example "Quake 4") to be digitally signed. Using this Palladium in partnership with the hardware can prevent you from running pirated software on your computer (in simplistic terms any software that is signed by the programmer is protected). Now obviously this is an affront to everything we hold dear. Fortunately there are still heroes that are willing to fight such evils. You can join others in worshiping one of these martyrs here

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It''ll be cracked in a week. Besides, MSFT is trying to be first-mover with Palladium, so its doomed to fail.



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Sounds like a pretty good idea. Unfortunately, as the man said, it''ll probably be cracked or circumvented pretty rapidly. Still, good to see an integrated, hardware-assisted approach to security - might help.

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Is the idea that if I write some program, it won''t run unless I apply for a digital signature from MS?



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Is the idea that if I write some program, it won''t run unless I apply for a digital signature from MS?



No, that''s just the hippy MS is evil no matter what they do crowd want everyone to think. Unsigned software will work fine, it just won''t benifit from the protection and some integration features of Palladium* (ie. said hippies can still pirate your software and drive your startup company in the ground)


*By integration features I''m refering to Palladium doing things like** allowing DRM (digitial rights management) media to be converted to other formats so long as the protection remains in place. This obviously can''t be done with applications that aren''t signed since it could be a hacker app designed to ripp the protection and automatically post it to Kazaa.

**To my knowledge Microsoft has not announced this, I''m just citing an example of a Palladium feature that would only be usable by signed "safe" applications.

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*By integration features I''m refering to Palladium doing things like** allowing DRM (digitial rights management) media to be converted to other formats so long as the protection remains in place. This obviously can''t be done with applications that aren''t signed since it could be a hacker app designed to ripp the protection and automatically post it to Kazaa.
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Strange, If I use separate libs (and am allowed to run unsigned code) not provided by MS -- unsigned ones that is -- it would have to monitor those programs activities to prevent me from doing that. That does not seem very likely.

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Wow, you spelled MS with 2 $s. I''m impressed.


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did anyone notice the part about them being able to delete things from your computer remotely? i imagine they could also copy your files remotely, without your consent... screw this!

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