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I would like to track my software users. The sofware would send the user''s ip adress once per week to my server. I could then track the users, who have bought only one license but use the software on more than one computer. Is this spyware? I think this could minimize the piracy.

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What about people who do not have static IPs, your scheme would report one user as many.

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Um, what about dynamic ip addresses?

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Dynamic IP''s (as was mentioned). Offline users (if applicable). People who legally move their software from one computer to another ...

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Original post by Fragmo
i think that would minimize customers as well


Not to mention, what exactly would you do when you caught more than one person using it? DO you have a legal team to go after them?

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I have a firewall, if a program attempts to go out to the network and I don''t know what it is doing, I block it. I think many people do this. Just another flaw in the scheme.

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If it''s not dynamic, I would send them an e-mail if they were caught.

I don''t think I would loose customers. BTW the software''s url is: http://www.frontbase.fi/products/fbsql

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If it''s not dynamic, I would send them an e-mail if they were caught.
How do you know if it''s dynamic or not?

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For this type of scheme, it would be better to give each installation of software a unique ID and force registration. (ie Microsoft.) And then when you get the weekly connection it checks that ID and doesn''t allow the program to function if it''s not legal. Kind of like you can''t play Everquest online if you don''t have a valid ID

Sucks VERY, VERY MUCH for the end user, but fights piracy.

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[quote]Original post by karbjork
If it''s not dynamic, I would send them an e-mail if they were caught.
How do you know if it''s dynamic or not?

Example: I know that there''s at least two computers when I see the following three addresses:

john.gamedev.net
c-101.blabla.com maybe dynamic
c-102.blabla.com maybe dynamic

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Original post by Ronin Magus
For this type of scheme, it would be better to give each installation of software a unique ID and force registration. (ie Microsoft.) And then when you get the weekly connection it checks that ID and doesn''t allow the program to function if it''s not legal. Kind of like you can''t play Everquest online if you don''t have a valid ID

Sucks VERY, VERY MUCH for the end user, but fights piracy.

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Thank you!=) I will keep this in mind. THis would fight the piracy.

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I think you are missing the point, which is, what is the point of doing this? It is not going to stop people from pirating and it is just plain intrusive.

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i agree with the ap.
pirates will steal your stuff regardless of what kind of schemes
you put into it. all you''re doing is making your honest customers
suffer. i''d stick with more traditional methods of anti-piracy
measures if i were you.

-eldee
;another space monkey;
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I think you are missing the point, which is, what is the point of doing this? It is not going to stop people from pirating and it is just plain intrusive.


I''m dealing with companies. I think they are more affraid of being caught than individuals. I''m not sayning that this would totally prevent piracy.

Also I think I will sell more licenses just by saying to the companies before they buy my software that we have this kind of anti piracy system.

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on the whole ip tracking method- what happens if i''m unsatisfied
with my ISP and switch? do i have to buy your software again since
my IP changed? what happens if there''s a powergrid failure and
all the local IPs for my ISP''s node are reset and renewed? do i have
to buy your software again every time the power goes out?

-eldee
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[ Forced Evolution Studios ]


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Original post by eldee
on the whole ip tracking method- what happens if i''m unsatisfied
with my ISP and switch? do i have to buy your software again since
my IP changed? what happens if there''s a powergrid failure and
all the local IPs for my ISP''s node are reset and renewed? do i have
to buy your software again every time the power goes out?



I would notice that you have changed your ip, because your old ip wouldn''t be on the list after say two weeks.

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Thank you!=) I will keep this in mind. THis would fight the piracy.




Karbjork, though it seems to me that technique would work (which is why I suggested it) I really wouldn''t recommend you do such an intrusive thing. But if you feel it must be done, then it must.

I just would hate for something like that to become de facto standard is all.

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Karbjork, though it seems to me that technique would work (which is why I suggested it) I really wouldn''t recommend you do such an intrusive thing. But if you feel it must be done, then it must.

I just would hate for something like that to become de facto standard is all.



Personally I don''t mind if a software checks if my copy is legal or not, but I do understund people who mind.

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If there is a valid reason for the software to require an internet connection, there is no reason this shouldn''t be acceptable. I don''t think that the IP address is necessarily the way to go. I would think a log in/log out system would work better. In this way, you could monitor for multiple users of one license simulatenously. This would allow fair use while at the same time limit piracy.

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quote:
Original post by EEROOKIE
If there is a valid reason for the software to require an internet connection, there is no reason this shouldn''t be acceptable. I don''t think that the IP address is necessarily the way to go. I would think a log in/log out system would work better. In this way, you could monitor for multiple users of one license simulatenously. This would allow fair use while at the same time limit piracy.


Yeah, and make customers happy when the login server is down.

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Yeah, and make customers happy when the login server is down.



not if they use l00nix.

haha screw micro$haft! lol Bill Gates, got ROOT?

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Good comedians are hard to find.

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If you''re selling to companies, then you realise that most of them will be using the same internet connection through multiple computers.

99% of lisence violations happen because a company has too many people using the software, and your scheme won''t detect that at all, if they''re all sharing the one internet connection.

If I had my way, I''d have all of you shot!


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