I wrote an SDL app (=> needs MT DLL CRT) using VC7, and it demands msvcr70.dll, instead of the msvcrt.dll that''s present on every version of Windows I''ve seen.
Why?! Looking at the CRT source (gaarggh), I don''t think they''ve changed anything significant (yep, same old BASIC rand(), Pentium ''optimized'' memcpy() complete with U/V pairing).
> win2000/winXP are very stable. if the app crashes, its _your_ fault. win98 is not that stable.
As to stability: is cussing MS because a) their PE documentation is somewhat lacking b) ''different'' header values consistently crash the system (silent reboot even) "m$ bashing"?
Oh, almost forgot the printf("\b\b") thing (bug in csrss kills the NT kernel. I''d love to hear that one explained).
Better than 9x though
BTW, I find the "m$ suxx0rs" people somewhat more tolerable: they usually have the evidence/facts on their side.
quote:coding with api''s, like dx,gl,win32, etc can mean you get crashes not wrong done by you, bugs that where not your fault. except one thing: they are about all documented. so its your fault if you did not knew about them.
I''d rather they were fixed, before they''re immortalized by crazy workarounds / reliance on the bug
> the most important thing: just code. you learn it all by yourself. you don''t learn if you don''t make the fault. believe me. <
Although after hours of tearing your hair out, you will likely never make the same mistake again, there are much nicer ways of learning things.
For example, I was very grateful for (and learned a lot from) Mark Kilgard''s _19 common OpenGL pitfalls_; I believe he was asking for something along those lines.
> You were asking us to do something unreasonable
1) us?
2) unreasonable?
3) Thinking about something constructive to say would probably have been a better investment of time than pissing and moaning / flaming the guy about how he asked the question (hrrn, applies to me too?
).> Either that or your too stupid to know a good suggestion from a bad suggestion (which, believe it or not, is very common amongst newbies <
That''s probably true, but usually not because the person in question is "stupid".
Teodric: thanks for the insightful+helpful reply! S/N increased
now some suggestions of my own: this is a pretty short list, ''cause it''s 0300 and my memory is AWOL.
1) beware of mixing CRT versions in different source files / the project settings (grr, that one was embarassing + a huge waste of time)
2) on a similar note, don''t assume a particular app/DLL was compiled with the same runtime as yours (can''t use static library data).
3) if you mix up your project settings (console vs Win32), or want / don''t want main() / a console, all is not lost: change entry point in Linker options, output (advanced for .net) to mainCRTStartup and add linker option /SUBSYSTEM:CONSOLE
4) VC6 often messes up precompiled headers. Make sure all files but precompiled.cpp ''use'' the header, and have precompiled.cpp ''create'' it; also, anything in a source file before "precompiled.h" is ignored.
Maybe those are documented somewhere; I don''t have a problem reading about specific functions, but sometimes you have to know about the existence of the problem
As Kilgard put it:
quote:I hope that this review of various OpenGL pitfalls saves you much time and debugging grief. I wish that I could have simply read about these pitfalls instead of learning most of them the hard way
