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Ive never used linux, and yes i have windows (''die'', yes i know). is there any linux that is good for somone like me who has never used it before? I know there is another thread on this, but im a complete linux beginer + only just started programming.
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[edited by - doodle_sketch on December 6, 2002 7:15:46 AM]

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You need to make a seperate partion for Linux to live on, and allow Linux to install its bootloader which will allow you to choose between Linux and Windows when you start your computer. At the moment your harddrive is likely one big partion, so first backup any important data (in case something goes wrong) and get FIPS. Make a DOS boot disk, copy the FIPS.exe program onto it. Defragment your hardrive (Accessories->System Tools) and then reboot your computer with the disk and run FIPS to split your harddrive into as many partions as you want.

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Original post by Gameplayer
Ive never used linux, and yes i have windows ('die', yes i know).


That's what you'd get when you asked a zealot. If someone says this without smiling, then punch him in the face for our common good and walk away. It's a very un- (and even counter-)productive behaviour. As much as I think Windows isn't a Good Thing(TM), I still agree that there are reasons to use it (play games).

Your choice of distribution should depend on how willing you are to learn new stuff and how much time you can invest. You've never used Linux before, so you will run into problems. That's normal. But be honest, the first time you started a computer you were even more clueless and still managed. Now you aren't clueless, and chances are you know quite a lot that will help you over difficulties.

The "big" mainstream distros (SuSE, RedHat) focus on a wide range of user types from newcomers to professionals and hide much of the complexity, so those might be a good starting point. You have all sorts of graphic frontends and a pretty good automatic support for even exotic hardware. A minus there is that the companies will take money for upgrades beyond security fixes. But still, if you want a smooth transition, that's a good choice.

If you have some time to try and make it to the point where you've got a working network connection, mail client and webbrowser, at least have one look at debian. It's not nice in the beginning, but it offers a huge load of software packages and regular updates. Plus support via the maillist is great.

[edited by - Shadowdancer on December 6, 2002 9:43:20 AM]

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I''ve found that Mandrake is the easiest to setup and use. It has lots of software, plus makes dual booting with Windows easy. If you get good enough, you could try Slackware(its a little harder to install, but is one of the most stable linux distributions out there).

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I can see the tendency... Another Newbie hopelessly lost in distroland. Perhaps "ask what distribution is good for me" is not a good strategy. Get a distro, try to cope with it and only then ask questions

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im sorry. windows is good, i just want to see what linux is like before i make up my mind which is better for me

(Edit) i hate people who say somthing is better than somthing else, even though they havent tried it. thets why i want to try it. (Edit)



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[edited by - gameplayer on December 9, 2002 9:06:58 AM]

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Make sure you know what you want to do with your computer before you succomb to the "I''ve installed Linux, that''s very nice but what do I do with it now ?" syndrome.


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I have a similar question. I''m thinking about buying a second hard drive (don''t wanna mess w/ hard drive w/ xp pro), and I was wondering if there is some way to set up a boot prompt asking me which hard drive to boot from. Anybody know how??? ( I hope it''s possible...) Thanks in advance.

~del

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Original post by Del Snd of Thndr
I have a similar question. I''m thinking about buying a second hard drive (don''t wanna mess w/ hard drive w/ xp pro), and I was wondering if there is some way to set up a boot prompt asking me which hard drive to boot from. Anybody know how??? ( I hope it''s possible...) Thanks in advance.

~del


The Linux boot loader will allow for this. The only problem is that you may need to overwrite the master boot sector on your first hard-drive, so it might not be easy getting rid of the menu if you get rid linux. Maybe the dos fdisk command for writing the master boot record will fix it, but I''ve never tried it with WinXP.

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check out http://www.linuxdoc.org

There are tons of docs on there about Linux, and the now infamous collection of linux HOWTO's


Stu M

[edited by - Stuart Miller on December 12, 2002 12:11:00 PM]

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quick search on Google found this:

http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html

+ many other results.

The search I used was:

xp + linux + dual boot


Goodluck!


Stu M

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I have windows 98, and im going to get a new hard drive. i am going to put linux on it, but i dont know how to boot between them(Dual boot).

how do you?



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Every linux distro I''ve ever tried installs either LILO or GRUB (bootloaders), and upon installation of linux, it detects that you have Windows running on your computer, and so will add an entry for it, that way you can run either or. It''s really rather simple.

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does ''SuSE Linux 8.1 Personal'' have one of them on? it doesnt say on amazon.co.uk!




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quote:
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[quote]Original post by Del Snd of Thndr
I have a similar question. I''m thinking about buying a second hard drive (don''t wanna mess w/ hard drive w/ xp pro), and I was wondering if there is some way to set up a boot prompt asking me which hard drive to boot from. Anybody know how??? ( I hope it''s possible...) Thanks in advance.

~del


The Linux boot loader will allow for this. The only problem is that you may need to overwrite the master boot sector on your first hard-drive, so it might not be easy getting rid of the menu if you get rid linux. Maybe the dos fdisk command for writing the master boot record will fix it, but I''ve never tried it with WinXP.



for win2k "fdisk /mbr" fixes the problem and as winxp is mainly win2k plus more colors / less performance...

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quote:
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does ''SuSE Linux 8.1 Personal'' have one of them on? it doesnt say on amazon.co.uk!




My head speaks a language i dont understand.


like nearly any other distri out there suse comes with grub and lilo

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cheers, is it good for beginers?
is it good for people who use windows (98)? if not which is?



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Good god man!, Just use Google to search for info on different distributions of Linux, it will be much faster and you will learn more than sitting around waiting for someone to respond to every question you have. Or better yet, go to the websites for different distros or if you want a list of distros go to
http://www.linux.org

If you dont know anything about creating multiple partitions I would hesitate unless you dont mind losing all info on your computer if something goes wrong. Just a word of advice

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