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The Two Towers - Contest

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Its going to show up sooner or later so here it is - the thread to start talking about hopefully the next contest. The only thing i really have to talk about is the deadline - i say we submit this demo around the time The Return of the King comes out. That gives us all enough time to make a really good demo - the last ones for the fellowship were good, i say we try to take it up a noch. One of the biggest problems i have is trying to find the time to make demos for contests. This also gives us quite a bit of time to find a good and fitting prize - all things being fair, i say the prize be paid for completely from donations made to the site (tomorrow is christmas btw - feel generous). Found one other thing to talk about - do u guys think that we should go strictly on the two towers or can we also dabble in the fellowship and the return...i really dont care but it would be an interesting option to explore.

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I reckon the 2 towers would be a large enough subject area on it''s own. There''s more than enough interesting graphical effects to simulate and loads of nice imagery throughout.

At first I thought it may turn into a ''who can get the most good looking billboard troops on screen'' comp, but there''s lots of other stuff - wargs, ents, gandalf + the balrukh, lots of cool buildings, the dead marshes, dwarf tossing :¬) More than enough to work from i think.

I think i like the long deadline idea: would give time for more people to enter, as well as having the exitment of the imminent new film to fuel those last bursts of coding ;¬)

On the prize funding: maybe an entry fee? Even if its only $1 it makes it less of a worry for nehe to organise prizes. Anyone who seriously can''t afford any entry fee at all could maybe post their entry in its unfinished form and people who had already entered could vote whether they showed enough merit to get a free entry.

Or is that just going to be over complex and counterproductive? Hmm.

Another idea is to have a rule that people must submit their art assets for anyone to use, one month before the end of the compo - that way people who are artistic get a bonus, but keeps the main thrus a coding comp by giing everyone some access to the models etc. It may also mean that by the end theres a nice big collection of LOTR themed media for enthusiasts to use, both new stuff and found on the net.

Anyway, some more ideas to mull over

Dan

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To be honest , the more I think about it the more I think an entry fee is unrealistic - it''d have to be a small amount like $1, but the transfer fee (from paypal or whatever) would be twice that...

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more people than you think wouldn''t be able to pay an entrance fee. It''s normally not the matter of the money, but having to sign up to paypal and most importantly having to have a credit card.

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I for one would not be able to pay. but maby someone could donate a prize. if not i''m still in for ''the glory of it''

Its a chance to test your skills and compare them to everybody elses. nobody is going to make a living by wining this thing are they? so the prize would only be a nice bonus anyway.
if people cant aford to pay to enter they dont have much money so then the prize dose not have to be that big for them to appreciate it! make sense?

so lets get some ideas of a topic for this thing to get the ball rolling.

no topic => no comp => no prize. not no prize => no comp.







- Jono AH

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Personally Id be happy with just having entries scored, and no prizes as such involved. The winner simply getting the recognition here for the work he/she put into the demo.

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If you''re interested, send me an email. Tell me what you feel the rules should be, the deadline, etc... and hopefully I can come up with a draft for the contest based on what you guys would like to see.

Unfortunately, I have not yet seen the movie... but I''m sure I will once time permits.

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woohoooo - finally Jeff announced the possibility of a Two Towers contest ))) all your guy''s ideas are great... but the one thing that I will make sure Jeff sticks to is that the contest is based on "The Two Towers" only .. and like someone said there is soooooo much that a person could work with from this movie. So email jeff your ideas so the contest can be announced officially Good Luck to you all

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Im yet to see the movie as well, but will be seeing it within a few days if all goes to plan.

Ill also have a Radeon9500 in a few days if all goes to play, so that I can make good use of ARB_fragment_program. Damn I love that extension, but cpu emulation makes it harder to work with.

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Maximus: fragment programs are great, but please remember that the contest should be able to run on a wide range of graphics cards. It''s a bit strange that you develop for extensions that only ATI supports (now), according to your signature

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quote:
Original post by vincoof
but please remember that the contest should be able to run on a wide range of graphics cards.


I always have a codepath that will run on standard OpenGL 1.2, which it falls back to if desired extensions arent found

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Its been a week since ive been on the site (NeHe)...im sort of on vacation. Ive been reading and heres what i think weve got so far:

- Long deadline - maybe when the return comes out
- all (good?) artwork must be shared one month before the deadline
- there might be an entrance fee but that may not be practical...maybe something like a developer´s journal for each demo entered may benifit the site more

Here´s what we still have to talk about:

- the prize...when i say fitting prize i mean something that means you one the two towers programming contest, not just went out and bought a g force 4...the g force 4 is nice, and expensive, but its not something you can show your friends or be proud of. I was thinking more along the lines of perhaps the one ring ($70 i think) or perhaps sting ($120).
- we can also experiment with ways of getting more demos entered from people who say they will program one (like me). Perhaps a form dedicated to people entering the contest. The ability to share files would also be nice.

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