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I''m still at the same friends house and we got the MBR fixed, so that''s good, but his video card, which is a Geforce4 MX 440, was not listed (it''s a fairly old version of linux because I didn''t have time to get a newer one), and the monitor (old, without manual) was also unlisted. We specified settings that we basically guessed on (SVGA, etc.) but regardless of what we do, everything is completely huge. It appears to be emulating the low resolution, and I know the monitor goes up to 1280x1024, so I''m really confused. One thing that I noticed was that his card supports 8bit, 16bit, and 32bit color, so is X trying to start in 24bit and causing problems? I obviously have no idea what I''m doing but maybe someone can provide tips.

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I''m still at the same friends house and we got the MBR fixed, so that''s good, but his video card, which is a Geforce4 MX 440, was not listed (it''s a fairly old version of linux because I didn''t have time to get a newer one), and the monitor (old, without manual) was also unlisted.

If it''s an old version of X, you either need to upgrade it for real Geforce 4 support (although Geforces prior to the 4 should work moderately, depending upon how old the version of X is) or get the closed NVidia driver and install it.

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One thing that I noticed was that his card supports 8bit, 16bit, and 32bit color, so is X trying to start in 24bit and causing problems? I obviously have no idea what I''m doing but maybe someone can provide tips.

In X terminology, the depth of the frame buffer doesn''t include the bits for an alpha channel. So, a 32 bit frame buffer in Windows-speak is 24 bits in X-speak.

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step 1: Select ANY nvidia card... they all use the same driver.
step 2: Select another monitor with a similar name, this often works... if it doesn''t, just select aonther until it does.

you should now have a working setup.

step 3: (optional - if you want hardware accelleration) Go to www.nvidia.com and download the appropriate, hardware accellerated drivers, and follow the instructions on the website to get them installed.

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step 1: Select ANY nvidia card... they all use the same driver.
step 2: Select another monitor with a similar name, this often works... if it doesn't, just select aonther until it does.

you should now have a working setup.

step 3: (optional - if you want hardware accelleration) Go to www.nvidia.com and download the appropriate, hardware accellerated drivers, and follow the instructions on the website to get them installed.


Yeah, that's what I thought, but there aren't any nvidia cards on the list. Unless a TNT card would work, I think I need a newer version. I think the monitor specifications were good though unless it matters that the refresh rates are slightly low.

EDIT: I would download the drivers, except everything is so big I have no clue what I'm doing. If I used a text mode browser would I be able to install them? Maybe from a CD on another computer?

[edited by - cowsarenotevil on July 7, 2003 10:18:45 AM]

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Hey I remember your chat program that ran through netcat. I was wonder if I could take a look at the source.

I also think I may have solved your problem with netcat (no 1+ conns).



The source was something of a joke... all it did was modify a file for every reply, and then it would reload and display the file. If you actually planned on using it for anything, I think just about anyone could write a better one.

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Yeah, that''s what I thought, but there aren''t any nvidia cards on the list. Unless a TNT card would work, I think I need a newer version. I think the monitor specifications were good though unless it matters that the refresh rates are slightly low.

EDIT: I would download the drivers, except everything is so big I have no clue what I''m doing. If I used a text mode browser would I be able to install them? Maybe from a CD on another computer?

[edited by - cowsarenotevil on July 7, 2003 10:18:45 AM]


What do you mean, they''re so big? Shouldn''t be more than a few megabytes. After downloading, it''s only a matter of starting the executatble, and you''re about done...

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What do you mean, they''re so big? Shouldn''t be more than a few megabytes. After downloading, it''s only a matter of starting the executatble, and you''re about done...


I think he ment that evertything *on the screen* is big, i.e. the resolution is low.

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I suggest you ask at some site thats specific to your distribution.

You''re about to go an fuck up your system trying to do it the hard way when nine times out of ten the distro has a little file that you can just clicky and watch magic go whooosh!

I would also suggest running ''X -configure'' as root, unless of course you''re using someting incredibly old.

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You're about to go an fuck up your system trying to do it the hard way when nine times out of ten the distro has a little file that you can just clicky and watch magic go whooosh!

I would also suggest running 'X -configure' as root, unless of course you're using someting incredibly old.


Well, the system is hardly something we care about right now, considering the fact that it has nothing on it.

EDIT: And besides, it's an old version without the drivers, and we just need to get them to install. And besides, how can we "clicky" the file if X doesn't start properly

[edited by - cowsarenotevil on July 7, 2003 12:54:43 PM]

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The source was something of a joke... all it did was modify a file for every reply, and then it would reload and display the file. If you actually planned on using it for anything, I think just about anyone could write a better one.


Well in that case don''t worry about it (my test code does exactally what yours does), I thought maybe you found a way to only read the new entries out of the log file.


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Get the lastest sources of XFree from xfree.org or some distro like slackware 9.

run XF86Config and select a monitor that can do 1280x1024 at 60hz
then advance to the next screen and select your video card chipset.

after finishing that, run your X with startx, it should work.

Don''t forget to select your default windows manager.

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Get the lastest sources of XFree from xfree.org or some distro like slackware 9.

run XF86Config and select a monitor that can do 1280x1024 at 60hz
then advance to the next screen and select your video card chipset.

after finishing that, run your X with startx, it should work.

Don''t forget to select your default windows manager.


Thanks, I''ll try that.

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Well in that case don''t worry about it (my test code does exactally what yours does), I thought maybe you found a way to only read the new entries out of the log file.





You could give each reply an ID and then only show replys after a certain ID for each reply. How did you get it to handle multiple connections?

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I created a batch file (simply for easier starting of netcat servers) that contained:

nc -L -p 23 -v -v -t -e babblefast.exe

-L restarts netcat after a disconnect, this is unique to the NT version of netcat, I believe there is some equivlent for the *nix one (you use linux, right?).

All you have to do is start multiple copies of this. The connection automatically goes to the oldest instance of netcat running (and does not already have a session in progress).

Hope that helps.

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I created a batch file (simply for easier starting of netcat servers) that contained:

nc -L -p 23 -v -v -t -e babblefast.exe

-L restarts netcat after a disconnect, this is unique to the NT version of netcat, I believe there is some equivlent for the *nix one (you use linux, right?).

All you have to do is start multiple copies of this. The connection automatically goes to the oldest instance of netcat running (and does not already have a session in progress).

Hope that helps.


Thanks, I was actually using windows for that chat server, but it''s good to know that it also works on linux (which I have also)

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