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Nervo    344
They don''t get paid. They are kept in holding cells and forced to crank out code for 18 hours each day. Haven''t you ever heard the term "code monkey"? That is what they are. Well they do get free meals included too...

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AndreTheGiant    329
Ive always heard that although its a decent living, its certainly not a job to make lots of money. Unless your the best, like Carmack who makes a million or more a year (I just made that up right, but im sure its a lot). But of course, if your the best at what you do, your going to get paid a lot no matter what it is. The best garbage man in the world probably gets paid a lot.

Anyway, i think youd get paid a lot more if you were a DBA or of you worked on some office productivity software, or if you worked at a consulting firm or pretty much any other software development job. And plus you wouldnt be expected to work more than about 8 hours a day.

If you get into game development its because you really really like it. You certainly get paid enough to live a comfy life, too bad you dont have any spare time to live that life.

I dont know from experience but this is what ive always heard.

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Sneftel    1788
Business application programmers: Decently.
Business application lead programmers: Pots o'' money.
Game programmers: fuckall.

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superpig    1825
Anyone care to put forward some actual figures?

I''m doing testing/basic level design (placing enemies where the design tells me, etc) for £3.60/hr (minimum wage in the UK), though someone older than me - and taking up a position lasting more that two months - would probably get more.

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if u want the big bucks u got to make ure own company. Check out lonewolf articles

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Mosh    241
Real money eh? hehe.

I guess you mean pounds or dollars? 13.50 GBP or $22.20

PS: Hey Superpig, which company do you work for, just out of interest?

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It depends on where you''re working. In some areas you''ll get paid more than others because the cost of living is higher.

If you''re very good at what you do, you can expect a very good salary. The sky''s the limit if you can offer something rare. Generally, in Britain, game programmers start off at between £18-25k (that''s approx $30-40k), and that scales all the way up to...well, anything, really, depending on your experience and skill. Senior programmers can rake in £60-80k ($100-130k) or more. Most companies also give bonuses/royalties It really all depends on how hard you work, and how dedicated you are. If you''re one of the best, you can make a very good living indeed.

The issue of hours in game development isn''t a myth, but it is slowly changing. The average age in game dev teams is rising, and that means families, less flexibility etc. Meaning less crazy hours. Better scheduling generally will/would also help in this area. But it is beginning to change, and at some of the bigger companies, you''ll already work more regular hours.

The best way to gauge salaries is to go to a recruitment website, and check out the salaries quoted in job specs there.

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Yog    122
Actual game programmers, not management or designers or publishers etc. are pretty much in the business cause they love what they do . There''s ways to make money in the game programming business but if all you want is money, game programming is prolly a really stupid choice

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CheeseMonger    198
quote:
Original post by superpig
Anyone care to put forward some actual figures?

I''m doing testing/basic level design (placing enemies where the design tells me, etc) for £3.60/hr (minimum wage in the UK), though someone older than me - and taking up a position lasting more that two months - would probably get more.

Superpig
- saving pigs from untimely fates, and when he''s not doing that, runs The Binary Refinery.
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National Minimum Wage for under 22 year olds, at least.

- CheeseMonger

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superpig    1825
quote:
Original post by Mosh
PS: Hey Superpig, which company do you work for, just out of interest?


Rebellion.

I''m working on a title called ''Sniper Elite'' (you may possibly have heard of it, it was demo''d at E3).

Superpig
- saving pigs from untimely fates, and when he''s not doing that, runs The Binary Refinery.
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Dustin_00    124
LMAO..

"average professional game programmer" who makes Halo.


Um.. if the average programmer could make Halo, then we wouldn''t be holding our breaths for Half-Life 2, Halo 2, and Doom 3.

Out of that group, I would suggest the developers are rewarded a little more generously than "average".

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PhiberOptic    128
In Sweden it''s something between €2500 and €3000 each month for beeing a codemonkey at a gamestudio.

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sSimontis    100
It depends on a few factors.
1. Where you work
2. What part of the world you work
3. Your skill
4. Your position
Bussiness programmers seem to make a little more then game programmers, but game programmers still get good pay. Sometimes, they do get thrown away in the basement of a building, locked up, and fed donuts to make sure they still are are alive.

Scott Simontis
If it wasn''t for C, we''d be using BASI, PASAL and OBOL

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