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Leaving the cost aside, I am quite accomplished with VB but want to learn C++ (I know a bit but not a great deal!). What do you recommend buying the Cheaper VC++ 6 or goigng for the "All singing and dancing" .Net variety?. There is no chance of me not learning C++ to a high level sa please no "What if it wears off...blah blah". What is the difference between VC++6 and the newer version? I don''t want to learn C# and VB i know enough to leave that as well. It is purely for C++. Any opinions and facts greatly appreciated.

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Forget about .NET now and you''ll live better since this is just the next M$ shock after the last.Before 3 or so years there was MFC and everybody got crazy,not it''s .NET and everybody ARE crazy and after 3 years it''ll be @JUNK and everybody will go crazy.So just learn C++ then learn how Windows works by simply learning the Win32 SDK and that''s it!

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Forget about .NET now and you''ll live better since this is just the next M$ shock after the last.Before 3 or so years there was MFC and everybody got crazy,not it''s .NET and everybody ARE crazy and after 3 years it''ll be @JUNK and everybody will go crazy.So just learn C++ then learn how Windows works by simply learning the Win32 SDK and that''s it!

http://mihail121.tripod.com




Yes by all means do. Use the Win32 SDK. So what if it takes you 10-20 as many lines of code compared to .NET to write your GUI apps? .NET is from M$ and thus a crap product - even if it cuts your development and debuggin time considerably. Avoid this M$ product. Mihail121 gives good advice.



"Yeah, I would''ve killed you, but I''m glad I didn''t - the paperwork is a bitch"

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Forget about .NET now and you''ll live better since this is just the next M$ shock after the last.Before 3 or so years there was MFC and everybody got crazy,not it''s .NET and everybody ARE crazy and after 3 years it''ll be @JUNK and everybody will go crazy.So just learn C++ then learn how Windows works by simply learning the Win32 SDK and that''s it!

http://mihail121.tripod.com




Yes by all means do. Use the Win32 SDK. So what if it takes you 10-20 as many lines of code compared to .NET to write your GUI apps? .NET is from M$ and thus a crap product - even if it cuts your development and debuggin time considerably. Avoid this M$ product. Mihail121 gives good advice.



"Yeah, I would''ve killed you, but I''m glad I didn''t - the paperwork is a bitch"



From my point of view it looks like that dunno from yours!Either give the man a advice or don''t comment mine!

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My name is Mihail DAMN IT!!!!!!!!Not Mihail121



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Forget about .NET now and you''ll live better since this is just the next M$ shock after the last.Before 3 or so years there was MFC and everybody got crazy,not it''s .NET and everybody ARE crazy and after 3 years it''ll be @JUNK and everybody will go crazy.So just learn C++ then learn how Windows works by simply learning the Win32 SDK and that''s it!

http://mihail121.tripod.com




Yes by all means do. Use the Win32 SDK. So what if it takes you 10-20 as many lines of code compared to .NET to write your GUI apps? .NET is from M$ and thus a crap product - even if it cuts your development and debuggin time considerably. Avoid this M$ product. Mihail121 gives good advice.



"Yeah, I would''ve killed you, but I''m glad I didn''t - the paperwork is a bitch"



From my point of view it looks like that dunno from yours!Either give the man a advice or don''t comment mine!

P.S.
My name is Mihail DAMN IT!!!!!!!!Not Mihail121



http://mihail121.tripod.com




But I am. I''m agreeing with what you said. It was so good and well put. Long live your advice. And I''m sure it was built on experience with both the .NET Framework and the Win32 SDK.

Again follow his original advice. Don''t bother with .NET use Win32...even better use ASM ''cause you''re not a real programmer if you can''t program in ASM. It''s such an efficient tool. Yay...




Or better yet, to the OP: Use the search feature to finde the numerous threads on this particular subject.



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My name is Mihail DAMN IT!!!!!!!!Not Mihail121

Doesn''t look like that from here.


How appropriate. You fight like a cow.

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Again follow his original advice. Don''t bother with .NET use Win32...even better use ASM ''cause you''re not a real programmer if you can''t program in ASM. It''s such an efficient tool. Yay...



"Yeah, I would''ve killed you, but I''m glad I didn''t - the paperwork is a bitch"


You said it.People who don''t know ASM don''t deserve to call themselfs programmers.That''s why i''m also not a programmer for the time beeing.

But listen to rohde pal.He seems to be the master of the disaster.Just look at him...oh wait...u can''t see him through the net...well that''s better anyway(he''s kinda ugly...)

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Then call me Charlie if it''s easier for you...

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Again follow his original advice. Don''t bother with .NET use Win32...even better use ASM ''cause you''re not a real programmer if you can''t program in ASM. It''s such an efficient tool. Yay...



"Yeah, I would''ve killed you, but I''m glad I didn''t - the paperwork is a bitch"


You said it.People who don''t know ASM don''t deserve to call themselfs programmers.That''s why i''m also not a programmer for the time beeing.

But listen to rohde pal.He seems to be the master of the disaster.Just look at him...oh wait...u can''t see him through the net...well that''s better anyway(he''s kinda ugly...)

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sneftel


Then call me Charlie if it''s easier for you...

http://mihail121.tripod.com




Look Charlie-Boy - there''s no reason to get personal is there? I never attacked YOU only your oppinion which I, to put it mildly, don''t agree with on ANY level (and that goes for the ASM bit as well). So why the ad hominem?



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i believe that there is always a correct tool for a certain job. personally i use the .net framework for writing small windows apps, as it does save me a lot of time and i can work with C#, which i find a much more pleasurable experience than C++.

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