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Drevay

Noes! Linuxant went nazi!

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Drevay    100
So, I was seriously considering putting Linux on my laptop, actually I was going to do it. But Linuxant requires you to PAY for their FULL version of the Conexant drivers now! And LOW AND BEHOLD my modem is specifically Conexant. See, you CAN get a free version, but it limits it to the abilities of a 14.4 modem! WTF? Anyone have ANY ideas here? I really want Linux on this baby! :''( ________________ Fatal Frog Entertainment (FFE): My solo company in progress.

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Drevay    100
Nope, only source you can get free is the cut down source.

A sad day in Open Source indeed. >:/

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Drevay    100
I got it for free, and it wasn''t a laptop meant for linux. I truly hate software modems.

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You got the laptop for free, the operating system for free and now you are complaining that you have to pay for the drivers?

Open source != free software

And paying for sofware is not a bad thing... one day someone paying for software it might put food on the table of a certain solo company called FFE.

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Drevay    100
Hmmmm...

That''s a good point, but why did you post that Anonymously?

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Garfong    122
If the drivers were once available for free, try to find the last free version, and use that. Obviously it will be buggier than the current version, but it might still work.

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grasshopa55    128
If I remember correctly, it''s illegal to charge for driver software. Since it''s required for your device to work, and it''s understood that you paid for the device, drivers are required.

But after reading the site, and their disclaimer about why they sell the drivers, it''s still bogus. I''d look for the latest free versions. Sure they may be a bit buggy, but what did linux users do before? They made do and they worked well enough to be useful.

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stimarco    1071
Wouldn''t it be easier to just cough up the 10 or so bucks for another modem? It''s not as if the damned things are particularly expensive these days. With all the broadband take-up we''re seeing, you could probably get a used one for a pittance.

Get an external serial (RS232, not USB) model, since these can''t use the CPU to do the hard work for them. Generic Linux drivers should then work without any problems.

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jcspray    122
The Linuxant folks are reasonable people, I've lurked on relevant mailing lists extensively. During the period when the driver was under heavy development, it was available for free, and they responded very professionally to people having issues. The software was never free software - it always had proprietary components due to the nature of the hardware.

Before getting up in arms extensively, it's important to realise that the driver for a software modem is not a driver. That little thing that's lodged in your PCI slot is not a modem. The modem is in the software. What Linuxant are selling you is a software implementation of a modem, which works with certain classes of phone-line interfaces (which were misleadingly marketed as modems).

Also, realise that "Available for Linux" does not equal "No money". The linuxant people worked to facilitate the possibility of you using a free operating system with your hardware. If you think they're making a profit on this driver product, you are sorely mistaken.

Of course, I'm biased. I was given a free license for the driver for helping out on the mailing list in the past. That's something for something. You're expecting something for nothing, which is something to seek and be grateful for, but not something to become outraged when you do not find it.

[edited by - jcspray on October 16, 2003 9:33:16 AM]

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The beta drivers are still floating on the net, and seem to be freely redistributable:

quote:

Copyright (c) 2003 Linuxant inc.
Copyright (c) 2001-2003 Conexant Systems, Inc.

1. Permitted use. Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, without modification, are permitted under the terms set forth herein.



But later in the license, there is:

quote:

6. Redistribution. Redistribution of this software is permitted only for non-beta, officially released versions. Redistribution of versions marked "beta" or "lnxtbeta" requires explicit written approval from Linuxant.



Therefore I''m not sure that they are after all redistributable. However, searching for "hsflinmodem-5.03.27lnxtbeta03042700" might lead you to websites with the authorization to redistribute the archive.

Of course, that will be a beta, not the final release.


Hope this helps.

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