about rpg maker
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not sure if this is the place but ive seen it mentioned alot so thought i would ask here.
does any one even still play them 2d style games that resemble old ''zelda, a link to the past'' type games?
would it be worth trying to make a game with graphics like tha using rpg maker 2000?
is there a way with using rpg maker to make it have better looking 2d graphics then what it comes with?
things like this is questioning if i should even take the time to bother
If you really want to use RPGMaker 2000 you can. It is a good way to get a prototype of a game. The bad thing about it is, it is illegal to distribute games you create with it, not that many people seem to follow that. You have to keep in mind, it is pirated and hacked software. If you have no qualms with that aspect of it, then go ahead and use it. You can create your own graphics to use within the program, the main reason people usually don''t use it to make a game is that it is too restricting. I know people have done amazing things with it, but they are usually hacks that take awhile to get to work.
And as for your question if people still play 2d games, I can''t speak for everyone, but I love booting up my old NES, SNES, or Genesis every now and then and playing an old 2d game. Some of them are a lot better than todays games, not that todays games are bad =P
And as for your question if people still play 2d games, I can''t speak for everyone, but I love booting up my old NES, SNES, or Genesis every now and then and playing an old 2d game. Some of them are a lot better than todays games, not that todays games are bad =P
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well i only wanted it to really test what ppl thought of this story i made...me and friend tried doing soe graphics programing our own engine but i cant cant get a grip on dirext X..will post a segement of my story i just want some feedback on it...it aint to big right now
Author
well here it is...if you please take the time to read it and tell me what you think of it.
Out of the darkness, the chink of mail and the clash of blades is heard... But then, a strike, and someone
falls to the ground..
"Oh shoot, sorry there man..." You lower your guard, looking at your friend with a faint grin..
What is your friends name?
(Name prompt)
shakes his head, pulling off his armor and flopping back onto the ground. Grunting, he notes,
"Man, you're getting a lot better, better than I am at least."
You rubs the back of your neck sheepishly, shrugging, "I guess, I've been practicing a lot."
Nodding, your friend turns away, glancing into the darkness of the forest, "I just got a feelin' we'll need our
training soon."
You shrug, and look over your for a moment, "Probably will, so I'll just..."
"Just what," says a voice looming out from the treetops... A glow begins to grow, held in hand by a sole
figure..
"Eh?!?", turns, looking into the treetops, "What's that?!"
"Do you think you're going to do?" finished the figure, the glow illuminating his face...
Name your arch enemy...
Enemy name prompt.
"It's !! I thought you were banished from here forever!" you say.
smirks, and floats downwards through the trees, the ball of light within his palm growing and
pulsing with energy... "There are greater powers then yours that can bring me back, I am undefeatable
now!" He cackles and holds the energy ball high.
Your eyes widen with astonishment, and you shout out, "! Get out of here, quick!"
"Now die!!" yells , directing the flaming sphere down into the earth. Filled with such intense
power, the trees and plants around your burst into flame, and in the midst of it all alights
on the ground, approaching you as he wields his sword, "You made the biggest mistake ever by trying
to banish me, and now you'll pay for it!"
Grunting, you step foward, readying your , crouching, "But you are naieve, my powers have also
grown!!" Laughing, you clash into battle.
Roaring, wails in pain, collapsing to the ground, "How... how could you defeat me? My master..
he promised me unlimited power... How...?" Coughing, he spits up blood, eyeing you with hate and spite,
choking for a moment, "This can't be the end.."
"Don't worry, it isn't.." says a new voice, stepping out of the fires, cloak swirling around him, "It's only the
beginning my friend... You'll see what accomplisments shall come.." He walks right past you, kneeling
besides , "And you, you have to survive, or I wouldn't be here, now would I, hmm?"
struggles to raise his head, holding his wound and coughing up a little more blood, "Who..?"
"No, don't speak, I can't have you die and erase all I've worked for.." The strange figure smirks, and spreads
his palms, the fingtertips of his hand glowing immensely.. And 's wounds closing and healing at
once. Then, making a gesture, your enemy's weapons disappear, and with another gesture, so does .
Swallowing hard, you take a step back, "Who are you! Why'd you do that, he doesn't have the right to live,
after what he's done..."
steps up, holding his arm to his eyes, ", what's happening?"
Smirking, the stranger stands, looking at you and your friend, "You know what? I'll answer your pal there.. I'm making myself a future, that's whats happening; and the two of your are going to be my catalysts, so you'll be able to see it first hand.." He laughs, as if what he said was just some kind of joke.. He raises his hands, both glowing slowly.. He gestures, and then the world disappears around you.
"It's dark.."
"The light.. I can't see anything... Where am I?"
"What's happening.. this.. this doesn't make any sense.."
It all fades to black, and you lose conciousness.
Slowly, sound comes to you. The sounds of another, someone else in the room. But wait, I wasn't in a room.. What's going on? Tired.. so tired.. ....
Later, you begin to wake again.. Opening your eyes, you look around a large room, empty except for yourself. Grunting, you sit up, rubbing at a pain your side. What's with that? I don't remember getting hurt. Shaking your head, you slide out of bed, finding your that your equipment is missing. "Huh? Where the hell.. How'd I get here?" Scratching your head, you put on what clothes are laid out for you.. not the usual rich quality you're used to, but homely, browned, stained.. But clothes are clothes.. Now where to go?
Trachore Innkeeper shrugs, "Yeah, I found ya' on th' side 'o' th' road, beaten 'n stripped of anythin' worth two cents. Figured a robber did it, so I figured I'd help ya', and in return y'd help me out with work. So anyway, I need some supplies first, so go to the Hoblin's Store and get the following items: One woodsaw, four brass bedposts, and lastly, one bottle of his best scotch. After y' get all 'at, come back 'n you can start your work."
<the story scene ends here, and you move on to do whatever. Here you'll be able to go into the town, explore around the room, or whatever. In the town will be Hoblin's Store, Wraith's Pub, Trachore Inn, and Trachore Town Council. In the other buildings, you can have whatever, it won't matter. Then, the shop part begins.>
As you enter the shop, the shopkeeper greets you, "Hey there chap, y' the one that ol' Ryker brought in from th' side of th' road? Yeh', that's the Trachore Innkeeper. Anyway, he told me you'd be coming in sometime soon, so I have the stuff you need ready. Be careful with the scotch tho', it's one of my last bottles."
You return to the inn, and Ryker looks up from reading a scrap of parchment. A deep frown on his face, he shakes his head and says, ", you've returned... But.. I have tragic news.." He lowers his gaze abck to the parchment, "My daughter.. she's been lost in the woods.. The horses her carriage was being pulled by.. they were spooked, and ran amok into the forests.. Might you please help me? Please, find her, and the horses.. I'll pay you dearly."
A nod, and you glance out the window's of the inn; shrugging for a moment and noting, "Of course.. I'll need my old equipment, or.. new equipment if what I used to have wasn't found with me... Can you help me in that sense?"
Ryker grunts, looking up as he notes, "Aye', you'll have to get a few new things. When Elizabeth found ya' it twas in the bare. Y' din' have a thread on ya'... But, enough of that, here, I can only give you a thousand gold, try to make the best of it.. And save my daughter.."
"Oh... you only found the horses... And, they were in the woods?" He nods slightly, taking your silence as the answer.. "I see," a nod, and he raises the bottle of scotch you got earlier, "And I guess I'll be hoping the witches don't have her.. They most likely do, however.. There's a cave down in the forest, it leads into the inner recesses of the Loknor Mountain.. No one's ever come back, if they've gone in.. But you'll have to try.. I can't live without 'Liz.."
You grimace, and give a nod, "I'll do it.. I'll have to." You give a bit of a reassuring smile, and make your way into the forest again.
You lean up against a pillar of stone, peering out into the cavern you've found.. It's massive, huge even. This really must be the inside of a mountain, for the roof of this place to fade into blackness as it does. Shaking your head, the cold, penetrating breezes whip your cloak about; but you stand firm. Raising an eyebrow, you realize that there, tied unto a stalagmite is the one you search for. About to step out to rescue her, the sounds of footsteps and low murmuring voices echoes about you.
Walking in from a large, sulphurous passageway, three witches converse, "And you see, thinks that we're going to be good at our positions. With the increased power he's been sending our way, I'm sure we'll be able to take over this part of the country in almost no time." Now, when you see these witches, that isn't what you think of them as at first. Beautiful, perfect in every way; they bare no resemblance to the hags of yore. The only reason they look to be witches is because of their garments.. But that's beside the point.
One hand on the hilt of your sword, you consider walking out to greet the three.. but something warns you against such an attempt. Leaning against the nearby pillar, you suddenly fall flat upon your face... because it seems to have disappeared..
"Ah hah!" cries out one of the witches, "I knew I sensed someone else in here.. Funny though, I thought it was something terrible, powerful.. But now I know it's just this kid... Shalika, I'll take care of this one, you and Ruth go and tell about his presence; he might want to move the base soon."
Cackling slightly, the one that seems to go as Shalika nods, "Alright Fevris, go ahead.. But I advise you, looks can be deceiving, as I too can feel something powerful within this one... And it's not often that my readings are incorrect."
Shrugging, Fevris turns, smiling wickedly, begging to change; morph even. Elongating, her height increasing, her skin begins to bubble into thick, hard scales. Rising up, the creature steps foward, complete in its change.. Whatever it is, it's twelve feet high, composed of tight, bone-clinging muscle, and radiating nothing except a darkness beyond belief. It roars.. the shape of a human, but lean, reptilish.
The creature begins to scream, a roar, but then a scream.. Melting slowly, its form breaks up around it, the witch's bodily form returning to the surface.. Flopping, crashing to the ground, she gasps for air, but can't seem to do much about it.. her deal was with one of below; and that's where she's going to go... So when she does lay to rest, she continues to melt; soon nothing left where she was except a dark blotch in the cavern floor.
You walk up to the prisoner, quickly untying her, nodding, "We've got to get out of here, quickly... Let's go, now.."
She shakes her head, grasping your arm, "They were going to.. going to..." Crying, she half-collapses against you, obviously having gone through some tough times.
Grunting, you pull her up to her feet, noting, "Come on, no time for that, we've got to go, now." Helping her along the way, you slowly find your way back out of the cavern, back the way you came.
"Elizabeth!" cries Ryker, smiling happily and taking her in his arms, "You're safe!" The two hug, jabbering miles a minute as they try to relate the loss and grief they had over such a period. Then, finally, they break up, tear stricken faces shining as they look about themselves; as if wondersome of just living and being alive as never before. Then, turning, Eliz' turns, eyeing you, a sly grin on her face, "But.. I think we need to reward my saviour father.."
You shake your head, simply rubbing the back of your neck and noting that, "I'm fine with just being of servic..." You're cut off midsentene, the innkeeper's daughter rushing foward, hugging you tightly and giving you a kiss on the cheek.. Blushing lightly, you take a step back, "But.. that's just fine too.. Uhm, and.. Yeah.."
[edited by - Rydis on October 16, 2003 8:21:37 PM]
Out of the darkness, the chink of mail and the clash of blades is heard... But then, a strike, and someone
falls to the ground..
"Oh shoot, sorry there man..." You lower your guard, looking at your friend with a faint grin..
What is your friends name?
(Name prompt)
shakes his head, pulling off his armor and flopping back onto the ground. Grunting, he notes,
"Man, you're getting a lot better, better than I am at least."
You rubs the back of your neck sheepishly, shrugging, "I guess, I've been practicing a lot."
Nodding, your friend turns away, glancing into the darkness of the forest, "I just got a feelin' we'll need our
training soon."
You shrug, and look over your for a moment, "Probably will, so I'll just..."
"Just what," says a voice looming out from the treetops... A glow begins to grow, held in hand by a sole
figure..
"Eh?!?", turns, looking into the treetops, "What's that?!"
"Do you think you're going to do?" finished the figure, the glow illuminating his face...
Name your arch enemy...
Enemy name prompt.
"It's !! I thought you were banished from here forever!" you say.
smirks, and floats downwards through the trees, the ball of light within his palm growing and
pulsing with energy... "There are greater powers then yours that can bring me back, I am undefeatable
now!" He cackles and holds the energy ball high.
Your eyes widen with astonishment, and you shout out, "! Get out of here, quick!"
"Now die!!" yells , directing the flaming sphere down into the earth. Filled with such intense
power, the trees and plants around your burst into flame, and in the midst of it all alights
on the ground, approaching you as he wields his sword, "You made the biggest mistake ever by trying
to banish me, and now you'll pay for it!"
Grunting, you step foward, readying your , crouching, "But you are naieve, my powers have also
grown!!" Laughing, you clash into battle.
Roaring, wails in pain, collapsing to the ground, "How... how could you defeat me? My master..
he promised me unlimited power... How...?" Coughing, he spits up blood, eyeing you with hate and spite,
choking for a moment, "This can't be the end.."
"Don't worry, it isn't.." says a new voice, stepping out of the fires, cloak swirling around him, "It's only the
beginning my friend... You'll see what accomplisments shall come.." He walks right past you, kneeling
besides , "And you, you have to survive, or I wouldn't be here, now would I, hmm?"
struggles to raise his head, holding his wound and coughing up a little more blood, "Who..?"
"No, don't speak, I can't have you die and erase all I've worked for.." The strange figure smirks, and spreads
his palms, the fingtertips of his hand glowing immensely.. And 's wounds closing and healing at
once. Then, making a gesture, your enemy's weapons disappear, and with another gesture, so does .
Swallowing hard, you take a step back, "Who are you! Why'd you do that, he doesn't have the right to live,
after what he's done..."
steps up, holding his arm to his eyes, ", what's happening?"
Smirking, the stranger stands, looking at you and your friend, "You know what? I'll answer your pal there.. I'm making myself a future, that's whats happening; and the two of your are going to be my catalysts, so you'll be able to see it first hand.." He laughs, as if what he said was just some kind of joke.. He raises his hands, both glowing slowly.. He gestures, and then the world disappears around you.
"It's dark.."
"The light.. I can't see anything... Where am I?"
"What's happening.. this.. this doesn't make any sense.."
It all fades to black, and you lose conciousness.
Slowly, sound comes to you. The sounds of another, someone else in the room. But wait, I wasn't in a room.. What's going on? Tired.. so tired.. ....
Later, you begin to wake again.. Opening your eyes, you look around a large room, empty except for yourself. Grunting, you sit up, rubbing at a pain your side. What's with that? I don't remember getting hurt. Shaking your head, you slide out of bed, finding your that your equipment is missing. "Huh? Where the hell.. How'd I get here?" Scratching your head, you put on what clothes are laid out for you.. not the usual rich quality you're used to, but homely, browned, stained.. But clothes are clothes.. Now where to go?
Trachore Innkeeper shrugs, "Yeah, I found ya' on th' side 'o' th' road, beaten 'n stripped of anythin' worth two cents. Figured a robber did it, so I figured I'd help ya', and in return y'd help me out with work. So anyway, I need some supplies first, so go to the Hoblin's Store and get the following items: One woodsaw, four brass bedposts, and lastly, one bottle of his best scotch. After y' get all 'at, come back 'n you can start your work."
<the story scene ends here, and you move on to do whatever. Here you'll be able to go into the town, explore around the room, or whatever. In the town will be Hoblin's Store, Wraith's Pub, Trachore Inn, and Trachore Town Council. In the other buildings, you can have whatever, it won't matter. Then, the shop part begins.>
As you enter the shop, the shopkeeper greets you, "Hey there chap, y' the one that ol' Ryker brought in from th' side of th' road? Yeh', that's the Trachore Innkeeper. Anyway, he told me you'd be coming in sometime soon, so I have the stuff you need ready. Be careful with the scotch tho', it's one of my last bottles."
You return to the inn, and Ryker looks up from reading a scrap of parchment. A deep frown on his face, he shakes his head and says, ", you've returned... But.. I have tragic news.." He lowers his gaze abck to the parchment, "My daughter.. she's been lost in the woods.. The horses her carriage was being pulled by.. they were spooked, and ran amok into the forests.. Might you please help me? Please, find her, and the horses.. I'll pay you dearly."
A nod, and you glance out the window's of the inn; shrugging for a moment and noting, "Of course.. I'll need my old equipment, or.. new equipment if what I used to have wasn't found with me... Can you help me in that sense?"
Ryker grunts, looking up as he notes, "Aye', you'll have to get a few new things. When Elizabeth found ya' it twas in the bare. Y' din' have a thread on ya'... But, enough of that, here, I can only give you a thousand gold, try to make the best of it.. And save my daughter.."
"Oh... you only found the horses... And, they were in the woods?" He nods slightly, taking your silence as the answer.. "I see," a nod, and he raises the bottle of scotch you got earlier, "And I guess I'll be hoping the witches don't have her.. They most likely do, however.. There's a cave down in the forest, it leads into the inner recesses of the Loknor Mountain.. No one's ever come back, if they've gone in.. But you'll have to try.. I can't live without 'Liz.."
You grimace, and give a nod, "I'll do it.. I'll have to." You give a bit of a reassuring smile, and make your way into the forest again.
You lean up against a pillar of stone, peering out into the cavern you've found.. It's massive, huge even. This really must be the inside of a mountain, for the roof of this place to fade into blackness as it does. Shaking your head, the cold, penetrating breezes whip your cloak about; but you stand firm. Raising an eyebrow, you realize that there, tied unto a stalagmite is the one you search for. About to step out to rescue her, the sounds of footsteps and low murmuring voices echoes about you.
Walking in from a large, sulphurous passageway, three witches converse, "And you see, thinks that we're going to be good at our positions. With the increased power he's been sending our way, I'm sure we'll be able to take over this part of the country in almost no time." Now, when you see these witches, that isn't what you think of them as at first. Beautiful, perfect in every way; they bare no resemblance to the hags of yore. The only reason they look to be witches is because of their garments.. But that's beside the point.
One hand on the hilt of your sword, you consider walking out to greet the three.. but something warns you against such an attempt. Leaning against the nearby pillar, you suddenly fall flat upon your face... because it seems to have disappeared..
"Ah hah!" cries out one of the witches, "I knew I sensed someone else in here.. Funny though, I thought it was something terrible, powerful.. But now I know it's just this kid... Shalika, I'll take care of this one, you and Ruth go and tell about his presence; he might want to move the base soon."
Cackling slightly, the one that seems to go as Shalika nods, "Alright Fevris, go ahead.. But I advise you, looks can be deceiving, as I too can feel something powerful within this one... And it's not often that my readings are incorrect."
Shrugging, Fevris turns, smiling wickedly, begging to change; morph even. Elongating, her height increasing, her skin begins to bubble into thick, hard scales. Rising up, the creature steps foward, complete in its change.. Whatever it is, it's twelve feet high, composed of tight, bone-clinging muscle, and radiating nothing except a darkness beyond belief. It roars.. the shape of a human, but lean, reptilish.
The creature begins to scream, a roar, but then a scream.. Melting slowly, its form breaks up around it, the witch's bodily form returning to the surface.. Flopping, crashing to the ground, she gasps for air, but can't seem to do much about it.. her deal was with one of below; and that's where she's going to go... So when she does lay to rest, she continues to melt; soon nothing left where she was except a dark blotch in the cavern floor.
You walk up to the prisoner, quickly untying her, nodding, "We've got to get out of here, quickly... Let's go, now.."
She shakes her head, grasping your arm, "They were going to.. going to..." Crying, she half-collapses against you, obviously having gone through some tough times.
Grunting, you pull her up to her feet, noting, "Come on, no time for that, we've got to go, now." Helping her along the way, you slowly find your way back out of the cavern, back the way you came.
"Elizabeth!" cries Ryker, smiling happily and taking her in his arms, "You're safe!" The two hug, jabbering miles a minute as they try to relate the loss and grief they had over such a period. Then, finally, they break up, tear stricken faces shining as they look about themselves; as if wondersome of just living and being alive as never before. Then, turning, Eliz' turns, eyeing you, a sly grin on her face, "But.. I think we need to reward my saviour father.."
You shake your head, simply rubbing the back of your neck and noting that, "I'm fine with just being of servic..." You're cut off midsentene, the innkeeper's daughter rushing foward, hugging you tightly and giving you a kiss on the cheek.. Blushing lightly, you take a step back, "But.. that's just fine too.. Uhm, and.. Yeah.."
[edited by - Rydis on October 16, 2003 8:21:37 PM]
It sounds good, although that''s only the story; the gameplay will affect how good the game is a lot, too.
Another thing: it isn''t usually a good idea to post parts of games you''re working on where a LOT of people you don''t know can see it. Since it isn''t copyrighted, anyone could steal it and use it in a game of their own that they sell. This isn''t a whole game or anything, it''s just part of a script, so it isn''t really a problem. But if you get something professional-looking done that you want to release, don''t put it online for people to look at.
eepoipoipoi!
Another thing: it isn''t usually a good idea to post parts of games you''re working on where a LOT of people you don''t know can see it. Since it isn''t copyrighted, anyone could steal it and use it in a game of their own that they sell. This isn''t a whole game or anything, it''s just part of a script, so it isn''t really a problem. But if you get something professional-looking done that you want to release, don''t put it online for people to look at.
eepoipoipoi!
Oldschool games are my life. 
I just can't bring myself to love 3D games. There have been some exceptions of course, though in general, I just feel 3D games suck majorly (personal opinion). Just can't seem to get into them...
Though it should be noted that if you have RPGMaker, you have pirated software, it goes without saying that it's an interesting introduction to creating games. But it's quite restrictive and you're far better off with your own game engine. After all, a 2D RPG isn't exactly hard to code.
And it's a lot more fun that way.
[edited by - RuneLancer on October 21, 2003 12:30:40 PM]
I just can't bring myself to love 3D games. There have been some exceptions of course, though in general, I just feel 3D games suck majorly (personal opinion). Just can't seem to get into them...Though it should be noted that if you have RPGMaker, you have pirated software, it goes without saying that it's an interesting introduction to creating games. But it's quite restrictive and you're far better off with your own game engine. After all, a 2D RPG isn't exactly hard to code.
And it's a lot more fun that way. [edited by - RuneLancer on October 21, 2003 12:30:40 PM]
Why RM2k? Use RPGds. Clicky to home page.
RPGds is actually an RPG "developer" not an RPG "scenrio maker". RM2k is basiclly and complete RPG. All you do it add in the events and you have an RPG. In RPGds, however, you can create a "real" battle system, menu system, event system, day/night system, ect.
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Projects: nMagic - Voted #1 in DOSGamesWeekly, a nondiversial DOS lover magazines.
[edited by - GameDev Staff on September 27, 1989 9X:58:97 XMS] For violating Article 43 Page 456 Paragraph 251 Line .042]
RPGds is actually an RPG "developer" not an RPG "scenrio maker". RM2k is basiclly and complete RPG. All you do it add in the events and you have an RPG. In RPGds, however, you can create a "real" battle system, menu system, event system, day/night system, ect.
WiseElben.com | My Journal | My Profile
Projects: nMagic - Voted #1 in DOSGamesWeekly, a nondiversial DOS lover magazines.
[edited by - GameDev Staff on September 27, 1989 9X:58:97 XMS] For violating Article 43 Page 456 Paragraph 251 Line .042]
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