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Well, I found out a couple days ago about Red Hat''s new strategies. I''ve been considering a move off RH9 to Gentoo lately (i think I understand Linux well enough) but I''m curious how this Fedora thing is going to turn out. I haven''t used it, or even read any opinions about it. Any comments about Fedora? Anyone used it yet? Etc...

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http://linux.depaul.edu/archive/depaul-lug/2003-11/

My LUG had a small debate about what is happening.

As I understand it, Red Hat has decided to make fedora more free. Basically, people can take fedora, redistribute it, and still call it fedora (no need to call it pink necktie to avoid the Red Hat IP).

Also, fedora will be more free than Red Hat Linux was. Red Hat was notorious for putting proprietary extensions on top of the Gnu/Linux system, but fedora will be more in league with Gentoo and Debian now...at least, that is what I gathered. I haven''t paid too much attention to it.

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I think all the buzz around Red Hat dropping the desktop was a bit overhyped. The way it sounds to me is that Red Hat basically is leaving their desktop OS (which would have been redhat 10) up to the developer community. So yeah, like GBGames said, its along the path of Gentoo and Debian now where the linux community of developers are working on it and not Red Hat.

I installed it last week. I can't say I have any problems with it.

[edited by - hitchhiker90 on November 14, 2003 1:00:28 PM]

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A Good analogy:

Imagine Red Hat completely decided to just fold up and go away. poof! Now the Red hat user community picks up where red hat left off and builds a distro around the remains of red hat, and call it fedora.

Now say that this company called red hat looks at fedora and decides, hey! we could make money by modifying this, and selling support! so they do. Companies do this with debian, and red hat just wanted to switch to that model.

Thats basically what happened. rough around the edges, though. (red hat has more control over fedora than any random company would over debian.)

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Original post by Promit
Well, I found out a couple days ago about Red Hat''s new strategies. I''ve been considering a move off RH9 to Gentoo lately (i think I understand Linux well enough) but I''m curious how this Fedora thing is going to turn out. I haven''t used it, or even read any opinions about it.

Any comments about Fedora? Anyone used it yet? Etc...


Just like RedHat, it''s going to be total crap. Sorry to all the RedHatters out there, I have to run it at work and I hate it. We are about to shift our servers to Debian or Mandrake soon, RH is too buggy. Had to install a new kernel in order to add a VServer patch to Red Hat. That''s not normal. Red hat tampers with stuff it shouldn''t. Anyways, these are my views on it. FYI, I''m a Netowrk/System admin for the second biggest schoolboard of Quebec.


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So, what are the differences between RH9 and Fedora?


Not that it matters to me, of course--I just installed Gentoo


Nothing, they''re the same. The project is only +/- 2 months old.

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"Just like RedHat, it''s going to be total crap. Sorry to all the RedHatters out there, I have to run it at work and I hate it. We are about to shift our servers to Debian or Mandrake soon,"

c''mon man mandrake do whatever redhat do ... they are based on redhat + a bit more; We use manrake in school and I didn''t find it particulary better or different then redhat - but I''m not sysadmin just an ordinary user.

for debian I agree it can be better (if you are sysadmin)

By the way: What are u doing at work? Are u sysadmin or just working with computer? Why is it crap? What would be difference if you used another distro? Can you motivate? *I''m just curious*

personally I have used redhat since 6.2 and never had problems; I use "fedora packages" and seen that as redhat10 - nothing really changed; But I didn''t instaled new system from iso image. I have just downloaded (most of) source pakages and recompiled everyting on my own and have messed quite a bit with their .spec files inclusive kernel so I don''t know if it is fedora .
(I use kde 3.2 alfa from kde.org sources not fedoras, and some other packages are also not from fedora + I have recompiled kernel with gcc 3.3 not with 3.2 like in fedora and have applied new ntfs patch that doesn''t come wiht fedoras kernel 2.4.22 (I use dual boot with xp)). I ddidn''t experienced any problems but I''m juse home user .....

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