Any good Multithreaded Winsock tutorials out there?
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preferably talking about the server side, where new processes get spun off as people connect (That''s the way to get the best results, right?). Having a hard time picturing the best way to design the network engine so these threads work well with the main class and app.
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Ok, if no good tutorials, can anyone give a rundown of how the data should flow from the server individual client connection thread to the main app? Should it go through the class, or through WM messages, or ??
> {...} where new processes get spun off as people connect
> (That's the way to get the best results, right?).
{Assuming Linux}
That's probably the *worst* solution. Check out Kegel's C10K article on designing efficient servers for *nix systems along with a taxonomy of all the available solutions.
{Assuming Win32}
Spawning hundreds of processes is the worst way to utilize Windows. There is IOCP (I/O Completion Port) which is very scalable, but it works using threads. Check out this link for a discussion of the available solutions on this platform. There are this link and this link for IOCP discussions specifically.
-cb
[edited by - cbenoi1 on January 16, 2004 9:54:50 AM]
> (That's the way to get the best results, right?).
{Assuming Linux}
That's probably the *worst* solution. Check out Kegel's C10K article on designing efficient servers for *nix systems along with a taxonomy of all the available solutions.
{Assuming Win32}
Spawning hundreds of processes is the worst way to utilize Windows. There is IOCP (I/O Completion Port) which is very scalable, but it works using threads. Check out this link for a discussion of the available solutions on this platform. There are this link and this link for IOCP discussions specifically.
-cb
[edited by - cbenoi1 on January 16, 2004 9:54:50 AM]
If you''re not opposed to spending a little money on books, I''ve found two here recently with some good information. MUD Game Programming includes a cross-platform (Win32 & Linux) Multithreading library and Networking API. For those of us working on MMORPG''s, it''s also got some really good architecture/design information.
I found a recommendation for the other book, Advanced Programming using Direct X 9 by Peter Walsh, here in this forum and received my copy yesterday. The networking chapter fills in some of the holes of the MUD book (which is all TCP/IP) by explaining one way to do reliable, ordered messaging with UDP.
Your mileage may vary.
bpopp (bpopp.net)
I found a recommendation for the other book, Advanced Programming using Direct X 9 by Peter Walsh, here in this forum and received my copy yesterday. The networking chapter fills in some of the holes of the MUD book (which is all TCP/IP) by explaining one way to do reliable, ordered messaging with UDP.
Your mileage may vary.
bpopp (bpopp.net)
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wow, thanks for all the links, some really good information, which i''m still digging through. My game will probably have anywhere from 30-200 players at once, so from the looks of the "Which I/O method should I use" FAQ I should go with the Asynchronous method for my server(?). Thanks again for the help.
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