Hmm...I thought that was rhetorical.

In any case, I''ll be happy to answer that. But first, I''ll need to differentiate between what you call games and what everyone else calls games. I''ll denote your type of games as game*s.

People don''t make game*s anymore because there are types of games other than game*s that many people enjoy more. Two of those types are those that you call simulations, and the kind you so despise in which gameplay and story are freely intermixed. The market for game*s is evidently limited to pretentious snobs so arrogant they redefine language to fortify their otherwise meritless arguments that there is only One True type of game. Most people argue there is too little originality; you''re the first I''ve seen argue there''s too much.

Wha? Where did my post go?

I DID post here right?

very strange........

Now a word from the local commie: OPEN SOURCE GAMES! They''re not motivated by money, so they don''t have as much pure eye-candy, but the one''s that''re relatively done are GREAT in terms of gameplay. Examples: Cube. It''s an open source FPS. Google for it.

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Osama and Bush walk into a bar. They each have a beer. Than Osama spontaniously asks Bush "How goes the enslavement of the American people?" Bush replied, "Yall just gots to keep on scarin ''em. We''ll just call all the Democrats terrorists or unpatriotic or sometin..." They then both remembered the day they had first decided to collaborate to work towards their common goal: the destruction of American values.

quote:Flarelocke: I see you have no idea what a game really is. Entertainment can come in many forms. You can watch a movie on your computer screen and be entertained but it doesn''t mean it''s a game because people enjoy it.

I see you have no idea how language works. When someone says/writes a word, in this case "game", the listener/reader interprets the meaning of the word as he or she has heard it used before. This inevitable effect leads to large numbers of people sharing, at least approximately, the same interpretation of the word. Then some guy comes along, and uses the word in a manner he intends to be substantially dissimilar to the meaning everyone else shares, and tells them they''re wrong to use the word that way, as if he were handed the "right way" to use the word by God himself.

The way everyone else uses the word game is to denote something interactive and that runs on a computer or console. The way you evidently use it is "the things CAKE likes and the things similar to the things CAKE likes, that run on a computer".

Wrt the movie thing, something without interactivity beyond control of playback is called a movie; when it has interactivity, even in amounts too meager for your tastes, it is a game. Let''s take something like Space Quest; the flow of the story is fixed and there is only one solution to every puzzle. However, one can try various solutions and die in the process; this is the interactivity in adventure games. In a movie, one character cannot die in the middle of playback, and then have you try again. In RPG''s the interactivity is usually in selecting one''s destination, and the strategies one uses to defeat opponents (in console RPG''s, strategy is only necessary to defeat bosses, usually). In FPS''s, the interactivity is obvious and continuous.

quote:I have played every catagory of game and have enjoyed some in each catagory. 99%+ of all developed games past 5 years have been a dogs breakfast.

Oh? So what in the definition of "game" implies that the game must be good?

quote:You don''t know what''s good or bad and never will because you don''t see the center point in things if it has it. Your all over the place.

So where exactly have I declared what I like that you disagree with? Master of Magic is my favorite game ever (plays great under DOSbox 0.60 now, btw). I agree with your assessment of Homeworld 2, but for different reasons. I agree with both your reasons and your assessment of Starcraft, Warcraft 3, and Fallout.