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Where is the AI that can pass the Turing Test?

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I''ve seen all the various parts of the AI required - there have been successful experiments in exploratory algorithms, in text to internal representation to text, in text to an ''understanding'' of it (programs that can summarize large amounts of information and then answer questions about the information, and make inferences and answer questions not explicitly answered by the information), and in various other algorithms that would be needed to make an AI that can converse well enough to be mistaken for a human. ...But there isn''t a program that can pass the turing test yet. Is there any reason the various technologies haven''t been integrated in order to pass the test? I can understand that many people think the test meaningless, but it seems that if nothing else, it would help bring in money for the ''real'' projects.

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If the technology is there, maybe the problem is how to pass the Turing test? I know many research labs don''t officially participate in the Loebner prize because they compete against complete amateurs. Given the format of the judging, I guess they are worried of the negative publicity involved in not "winning."

Alex

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Is important for AI to attempt to pass a Turing test? What if AI would decide it would be harmfull? I don't think that a Turing test is effective for testing AI. And we could believe that majority of Real AI would think simillary about that.

Alas Turing test is rather simple and unexpesive. In real live there are
1. complex and/or expensive things.
2. cheap, simple, and not working things (with few exceptions)

Is that test one of these exceptions? I don't think so. Also Turing test wouldn't help us with a AI development.

[edited by - raghar on January 24, 2004 5:43:11 PM]

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Assume that someone has already made such an AI that can pass
the Turing Test.

What I would like to see is what happens when you put two
of them together and have them "converse".

Oh, wait a minute, is "Extrarius" a pseudonym used by
a computer AI right now? Hmmm... If that is the case,
then congratuations to the author of "Extrarius Bot". You
have fooled me.



Kami no Itte ga ore ni zettai naru!

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quote:
Original post by Extrarius
I''ve seen all the various parts of the AI required - there have been successful experiments in exploratory algorithms, in text to internal representation to text, in text to an ''understanding'' of it (programs that can summarize large amounts of information and then answer questions about the information, and make inferences and answer questions not explicitly answered by the information), and in various other algorithms that would be needed to make an AI that can converse well enough to be mistaken for a human.

To be honest, I was under the impression that most of these situations were all far from being solved. Do you have any references?



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I'll try to find the sitesagain (its been a long time since I looked at them, I was just thinking about it and decided to finally post this), and I may be incorrect about the projects (maybe they were 'AI parlor tricks' or somesuch, but it didn't sound like it).

On most of the projects I'm thinking of, I only have thirdhand+ knowledge (mainly because the papers for most aren't online, so my knowledge comes from websites linked to by bishop_pass). The exploratory engine I'm thinking of is on its 5th or so iteration, and is now a commercial project(CYC I think it is). Most of the projects were also done in the 80s to mid 90s, so I'd figure they would be even further along by now.

/me goes to find some of the links

[edited by - extrarius on January 24, 2004 11:09:00 PM]

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Actually, if you check out www.a-i.com they are doing work on an AI that supposedly can pass the Turing test. (For infants anyway) They give the AI (HAL, I believe its called) no previous understanding of language, and teach it the same way a child is taught language. They have taken transcripts of dialogue with HAL to child-development specialists, who returned the transcripts saying HAL is a perfectly normal little boy (of about 30 months). (They of course, had no idea that HAL is actually an AI)

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To pass the Turing Test, you essentially need a program with a deep knowledge of everyday things. This is much easier said than done. There have been a number of attempts to deal with this, but none successful.

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My car could pass the turing test... Im convinced it''s the home of a small gnome who livs somehwere inside the body of the car.

This little guy hates getting up on cold mornings, but likes to stay up late, and sometimes just doesn''t want to start working. On hot days he''s more than cooperative when it comes to putting the top down, but not when it''s cold out. He unfortunately seems to enjoy huffing gas fumes, and will refuse to budge if I cut off his supply...

Smiles,
Will

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LOL, RPGeezus.

Well, my point, as usual, is that I don''t care if it can pass the Turing Test as long as it can make me a sandwich. We don''t need machines to "think." We just need them to solve our problems.

I also have doubts, you know, that some acquaintances of mine could pass the Turing Test... even in person.

"You mean he was HUMAN?!"

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