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Is DeVry a good school to go to????

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I might take Computer Information Systems at Devry, and I want to know if its a good school to learn programming....and maybe get a job in the game industry.

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Today there are no GOOD schools to learn game programming. These programs are just starting out for the most part. To learn game programming learn computer programming, read everything you can about game programming and last but not least, play games with a critical mindset, that is, analyse them as you''re playing them (structure, flow...)

Hey, if no one''s looking you may even take notes of your analysis while youre playing the games

I''m sorry to say this, but DeVry just wants your money.

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You could try out GameInstitute http://www.gameinstitute.com. I am currently enrolled there, and even though I''ve just started I''ve learned a lot. It''s awesome!!

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I go to DeVry and I am graduating next week as a matter of fact. Now let me tell you, DeVry teaches you a lot about a lot of different areas. They teach classes on C, C++, MFC, Java, HTML, ASP, Linux, networking, systems analysis, project management, and a heck of a lot more. Now if you want to go there to learn game programming from them then the answer is no. If you want to learn how to program then I say yes. DeVry does not teach game development. What you can do is buy books (like the Game Programming Gems series, by the way are the only real good game development books), then while you are at DeVry learning how to program, you can spend your spare time learning game programming specific information.

To answer your question is kinda hard. As I said I go to DeVry and I''ve learned how to program as well as game development but the game programming was on my spare time. There are other schools out there that are not universities but they teach game programming. These schools don''t seem to give you a lot of programming background. For example in DeVry you will take a minimum of 7 or 8 programming related classes (like C, C++, etc). I say or 8 because if you count PS/SQL in the second database class then it is 8.

I guess I still didn''t answer your question. From my experience I say...yes go to DeVry. For one it is now a university. Two you get a lot of hands on programming experience and knowledge. Three you get a lot of good networking and database experience that can help you especially if you are creating online multiplayer games. Four you also get some high up math classes and I am pretty sure you have the option of taking physics and calculus instead of the required classes if you wanted. Since I just woke up I can''t think of any other reasons right now but there are some more. There is no game development specific classes but it is easy to learn game development in your spare time once you learn how to program at a professional level. That is what I did. Since you will be doing that stuff in your spare time anyhow (educational) then it is not any extra work. Since you will know all about programming, networking, math, etc, then picking up a game development book and reading it is very easy. Before I started school those kind of books seemed hard but after a few semeters, books like the Game Programming Gems series are easy reads. One of my professors did some professional game development so I get a lot of advise and info from him.

I hope this helped. Depending on your background and motivation level DeVry will not be easy. But I wouldn''t change the fact that I went there because I learned a lot. You also get a lot of free software. I got Windows XP and .Net from the book store for free since DeVry has a deal with Microsoft to give away a lot of free software. You get a bundle that has like 20 programs on it from operating systems, to office, to visio, etc.

The last reply post said DeVry just wants your money and that is not true. Speaking as a person that goes to DeVry, it all depends on your campus. Go to a good campus (in other words in a good area) and you will have a good atmosphere no matter what school you go to.

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quote:
Original post by DizzyKronic
...Computer Information Systems at Devry... learn programming...
From the DeVry CIS description page:
quote:
Computer information systems professionals identify, analyze and design business solutions as well as develop, test and implement supporting code and databases. In this business-oriented career field, professionals must combine knowledge of business functions with expertise in computer hardware, applications software, databases and programming.
Doesn''t sound close to game programming.

The lesson here? Read the documentation, and decide for yourself!

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You mention "higher up maths" and then "maybe calculus" in the same breath, which confuses me.

Most decent Comp Sci programs I know of with good math programs assume you paid attention in high school, and already know basic calculus. First semester, you''ll do deeper calculus and second semester, multi-dimensional calculus. Then there''s another three years of undergraduate math. (linear algebra, combinatorics, numerical methods, statistics, algebra, etc)

THEN, when you go to masters or PhD level, you can start working on higher end math such as clifford algebra, applied tensor calculus, cryptography, etc. Does DeVry really teach this? I''d be amazed.


My opinion: learning computer languages and APIs will give you skills that are totally obsolete 10 years from now. Learning math will give you skills that are applicable until you die. Learning how to learn is the most important thing of all.

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I would look in to going to a four year university. From what I understand, Devry is more of a community college. Before you make a choice about colleges tho, look up the college''s rating for your field - don''t bother with U.S. News, for some reason they only like libral arts colleges. Most good CS dept. will require you to take at least thru Linear Algebra, and some dept. require a math minor. If you decide to go on to a masters/PhD degree, many CS depts. will have math applications courses that you can take instead of the general course in the Math dept.

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