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are game degrees really that important ? will they land u in a job ? Is Digipen really that good ... and is it worth the huge sum u pay ?( Particularly the MS degree ) I agree that job experience is really important. But what about people who cant get a job due to lack of availability, country of living etc. what can they do to get into the industry. Please help guys, Iam confused...

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Well Im doing one in Britian and its got me contract games programming work over the summer so it can be useful for that sort of thing. Over all though Id say they are a complete waste of time. Do computer science, buy lots of books, make a cool demo in your own time and get a job that way. Atleast then people might respect your degree once you have it and its a bit more transferable to other computing areas if you want to go that way later.

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Well Im doing one in Britian and its got me contract games programming work over the summer so it can be useful for that sort of thing. Over all though Id say they are a complete waste of time. Do computer science, buy lots of books, make a cool demo in your own time and get a job that way. Atleast then people might respect your degree once you have it and its a bit more transferable to other computing areas if you want to go that way later.


thank you for ur advice.
BTW wat are the chances of foreign developers being employed.

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I'm inclined to think that game degrees are not only not that useful, they're completely useless resume padder.


In any case, as long as you can speak English and generally communicate, getting a job in the US or England is not much of a problem. This depends a lot of where you were educated.. My parents, for example, were educated in catholic schools, so their English is styled more after Brits and generally with much less of an accent. I don't know if you're going to a catholic school or just a private school or even a public school.



Probably the best way of getting a foot in the door is through post doctoral work (that's how my family came). It'll get you a visa much more easily, as well as getting you some experience and such. Only thing is, you should be aware that life as a postdoc is not too great. It's ok for a single guy...but don't plan on getting married.

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No. Get a degree in something more worthwhile. Want to write game scenerios / stories? Get a degree in English. Want to do modelling? Digital Art. Programming? Computer Science / Software Engineering / Computer IS.

It goes on.

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I'd disagree, having just completed the third year of I suspect the same degree as Drazgal I'm currently working on a game prototype as part of a competition open to uni students and recent graduates. Getting paid a wage to do what you do for fun rocks. One thing I have noticed is that the teams comprised of students from gaming courses are streets ahead in terms of understanding the processes involved than the ordinary computer science students. In terms of interest I'd be bored to death doing ordinary CS.

In my time in Uni I have created numerous demos as part of the course all gaining me good grades academically and I feel also increasing my knowledge and employability. Really Uni is what you make of it, work hard and you can achieve a lot. Having a degree isn't the be all and end all being able to do the job is. A good degree shows you are capable of working off your own back and really only gives you a foot in the door of your first job. From then on its experience that counts.

Saying that I wouldn't be being paid to make a game now unless I had chosen to do this degree.

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I think a game degree is worthless because most of them say things like (Game Design Degree) when game designer is one of the more harder positions to acquire. Its not like after you get your degree your gunna become a game designer for Bethesda or Rock Star.

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thanks a lot for your advice dudes.
Iam currently doing my BS in computer science, so i guess Iam on the right track ;)

One thing I've noticed in "requirements for programmers" shown by almost all game development companies is that 2/3+ years experience in the game industry is a must.
If everyone keeps lookin for experience, whos gonna hire a newbie in the first place ??

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If everyone keeps lookin for experience, whos gonna hire a newbie in the first place ??


Experience comes from internships and post docs. You're looking at job listings...search for internships first.

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They don't post job notices for newbies, they've probably got about a million pounding down their doors already...

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