i was wondering how well these 3rd party shader tools work? : ShaderStudio Shaderworks i'm looking for some quick and easy ways to make shaders and such for the Demo that i'm working on, and i was hoping some of you guys have had some experience with these 2 programs (only 2 i've found that seem like what i need, still lookin around ATM.), and if you could give me alittle advice... which would be easier to use, which would help produce very nice effects (help me make my demo "world" awesome looking like farcry/UT2k4/Doom3/etc...)