Quote:Original post by vanevery0
You are giving Black & White way too much credit for actually doing anything. It provides a nice interface for configuring canned beast behaviors, that is all.
Quote:Original post by fup
Sugarscape has been used to model historical events (such as the migration of native American Indians). It might be worth a look.
http://www.brook.edu/es/dynamics/sugarscape/default.htm
Quote:Original post by InnocuousFox
I should have specified that I was referring to the behaviors of the people rather than the creature. They do their own little thing of building their town, etc.
Quote:Original post by happylracQuote:Original post by fup
Sugarscape has been used to model historical events (such as the migration of native American Indians). It might be worth a look.
http://www.brook.edu/es/dynamics/sugarscape/default.htm
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Quote:Original post by tonyg
Has anybody got any reference material for History simulators?
What I mean is create a virtual world (rivers, mountains etc) introduce 'humans', foodstuffs etc etc and rules for building civilizations, creating wars etc etc and leave it to run for 5000 years with each 'civilization' writing it's own history.
The idea is to 'uncover' the history of the planet using virtual archaeology and documents.
I've had a look at some A-Life sites but can't find anything similar.
Quote:Original post by vanevery0Quote:Original post by InnocuousFox
This would require a massive agent-based model that has all the abilities of individual survival and awareness of/ability to take advantage of social connectivity. This is not small at all. The only things that have approached this are games like Black & White.
You are giving Black & White way too much credit for actually doing anything. It provides a nice interface for configuring canned beast behaviors, that is all.
Quote:Original post by Anonymous PosterQuote:Original post by tonyg
Has anybody got any reference material for History simulators?
What I mean is create a virtual world (rivers, mountains etc) introduce 'humans', foodstuffs etc etc and rules for building civilizations, creating wars etc etc and leave it to run for 5000 years with each 'civilization' writing it's own history.
The idea is to 'uncover' the history of the planet using virtual archaeology and documents.
I've had a look at some A-Life sites but can't find anything similar.
The problem is the complexity.
Like most AI projects, the engine is less than 10% of the project and the behavior logic is quite involved.
You would have to define the patterns ahead of time, and what you have specified is not as simple as existing game rules/pseudo AI. Even if you try some kind of Genetic Algorythm to evolve civilization, its still based on precanned behavior primitives.
Try taking a sample A-life ruleset and project all the influences and factors that you think will make a rich enough simulation for your 'history' and see how quickly it grows huge.
Simulating 'tribes' might be reasonable but think of the dynamics of an empire (let alone a world spanning civilization as exists today).
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In 1963 von Wright published three books. THE VARIETIES OF GOODNESS he considered his best and most personal work. Other studies were NORM AND ACTION and THE LOGIC OF PREFERENCE. During this period he began to take an interest in cybernetics and mathematical behavioral science. EXPLANATION AND UNDERSTANDING (1971) showed the influence of Wittgenstein's last writings. It is perhaps von Wright's best-known work. FREEDOM AND DETERMINATION (1980) was von Wright's last major book on logic. In it he continued to elaborate his ideas of the relation between actions and their reasons and also the differences between the human and the natural sciences. Von Wright also wrote in his later years of ethics, cultural philosophy, and ecological questions. His analytic hermeneutics is considered a bridge between two rival approaches to philosophy.
