# Annoying problems with quake 3

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jakpandora    112
I know this should be in the game modding section, but I NEVER het any answers there, so I thougth I would post it here. I made a custom level for quake 3, and need to make the AAS for the bots. however, on the site I am getting the tutorial from(http://www.planetquake.com/q3radiant/) I need to open a command prompt and type in all these commands to get the AAS made. however, for some reason, the MS-DOS prompt doesnt seem to be working correctly and is giving out errors. My question is that is there any way to create the AAS for the bots in an easier or different way?I am using Q3Radiant as my level editor if it matters.

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Since you got no replies yet,can't hurt to tey and help.
What OS(windows) are you running?

What are the errors/whats not working,when running from the
command line?

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jakpandora    112
apparently thats the only way then. im using Win xp, and i have to type in commands like *cd..* and it says those thing dont exist. The tutorial is somewhere on the site, sorry I could give an exactl link.

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stormrunner    720
i can see how you got confused. when it says "c:\windows\*cd..*" there should be a space and no *. all it means is that you should route to your c: drive, using the cd command. on xp, you should have :
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator> _/* here, you just use the cd command */C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator> cd c:\ /* and now it will display */C:\ _

all it meant by the "c:\windows" was it was assuming that was your default command directory. as you can see, mine is different, so yours may vary as well. type help to sort through the commands. all the tutorial is telling you to do is to navigate to the desired directory, and execute
-bsp2aas c:\progra~1\quakei~1\baseq3\maps\lethalarea.bsp*

you may need to modify that a little to match your paths.
hope that helped a little.

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jakpandora    112
Thanks! ill try that.

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jakpandora    112
I still have problems. when I type in the "*bspc -bsp2ass" part, it says the command doesnt exist.

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stormrunner    720
that tutorial wasn't well written. however, buried in there is this instruction (which i also missed) :
Quote:
 rite exactly what's between the *'s and dont forget all the dots, spaces and signs

so, bearing that in mind, you'd do something like this (assuming you are starting at your c:\ drive). you can navigate to your directory with one statement.
C:\> cd "c:\program files\Quake III Arena\tools\"/* it should now read : */C:\Program Files\Quake III Arena\tools\> _/* here, it seems you type  bspc -bsp2aas "c:\progra~1\quakei~1\baseq3\maps\lethalarea.bsp.  you'd type */C:\Program Files\Quake III Arena\tools\> bspc -bsp2aas "c:\program files\quake III arena\ *insert map file path here without the * *"

what i'd suggest, when you get to the above part, is that you open the properties menu on your .bsp file (right-click) and type the path as it appears there (by hand), followed by "\" and the filename (don't forget the extension). and make sure both quake III arena and q3radiant are installed properly.

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jakpandora    112
i'll try everything you said. Thanks!

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jakpandora    112
im almost ready to give up. now it doesnt recognize the c:\ drive, and thinks its a command. heres everything I typed in:

C:\documents and settings\jack>cd C:C:\Program Files\Quake III Arena\tools\> bspc -bsp2aas "c:\program files\quake III arena\maps\arena2.bsp

however, I cant get past the second part when I type in the tools drive because of this.

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sBibi    241
can't you just make a .bat?
it'll be easier than messing with some kind of emulated ms-dos prompt...

and btw, I might be wrong, but you don't need to pass the absolute path to your bsp do you?

just make a text file, and copy/paste these lines inside:

cd "C:\Program Files\Quake III Arena\tools\"
bspc -bsp2aas "..\maps\arena2.bsp"

then rename it to .bat and double click on it...

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jakpandora    112
I did what you said. it opens and closes so quickly , that I cant see if it worked or not.I saw something about a log file though. anyways, i am gonna boot up quake now and see if it works or not. thanks!

*EDIT* Nope, there is still no AAS or whatever for the map. I put exactly what you said in the bat file and clicked on it. that didnt work. then I typed the absolute adress of the file, and that didnt work either.

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eFoDay    300
cd is a command that stands for "change directory"
the two dots mean go up one directory

if your starting in the directory "c:\documents and settings\jack"
here is how you can navigate to the "c:\program files\quake iii arena\tools" directory

c:\documents and settings\jack> cd ..
c:\documents and settings> cd ..
c:\> cd program files
c:\program files> cd quake iii arena
c:\program files\quake iii arena> cd tools
c:\program files\quake iii arena\tools> _

now you are in the directory "c:\program files\quake iii arena\tools"

in this directory there is a .exe named bspc.exe.
if you want to execute it you can type in bspc and press enter

it looks like it takes some command line arguments
bspc -bsp2aas "c:\program files\quake iii arena\tools\maps\arena2.bsp"

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jakpandora    112
actually, I found a neat little tool online where I just pick the level in a GUI and it creates the ASS for me. thanks for everyones help!

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sBibi    241

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 it opens and closes so quickly , that I cant see if it worked or not

just add a last line "pause", it will wait until you press a key to close the window, quite useful to see what's printed in the dos window ;)

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lubby    290
Quote:
 actually, I found a neat little tool online where I just pick the level in a GUI and it creates the ASS for me. thanks for everyones help!

I am glad someone still gets some use out of my GUI :-)

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jakpandora    112
thanks for the tip sbibi. and lubby, you made that? its a great tool(alot easier then the dos prompt way) Thanks!

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lubby    290
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 and lubby, you made that? its a great tool(alot easier then the dos prompt way) Thanks!

If its BSPC-GUI you are using then yes, I dont know any other front ends for BSPC out there, so I guessed it was. /yw :)