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Politically incorrect games fun? Would you say a politically innocent game is fun? You have Politically incorrect radio, TV, movies, or news sometimes so why not games? Why not has a game like a movie in how the main focus of the game is to hunt gay people? Or how about having a politically incorrect game and attacking Arabs like the game Metal Slugs does? Freedom of speech and expression should allow people to make them right? It would not cause controversy if the story is totally off by saying impossible thing like taking on Aliens. It’s ok to attack Nazis since they lost the war and are bad. But what if you hire actual historians and turn a game into a political history lesson that will offend people like attacking the Muslim or Catholic religion? Or attacking political parties, political views, ethnicities, occupations. I think many would want those types of games.

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Original post by WarsongIt’s ok to attack Nazis since they lost the war and are bad.


Actually it's ok to attack Nazis because they exterminated 6 million Jews and started a war that killed tens of millions. There's a difference between Nazis and the other groups you mentioned like Catholics generally or Muslims generally. A BIG difference.

What company would want to produce a game where you gun down Catholics like you do aliens in other games? You'd be labeled the Hate Crimes Corp. Just because there's a "market" for all kinds of hate, that doesn't mean it's right to cater to it.

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Original post by WarsongWhy not has a game like a movie in how the main focus of the game is to hunt gay people? Or how about having a politically incorrect game and attacking Arabs like the game Metal Slugs does? Freedom of speech and expression should allow people to make them right?


Yes, freedom of speech lets you do what you like. Then the freedom of the market will crush your idea like a bug. Imagine the protests and bad press from a game that specifically focused on killing gay people. You might sell some games because of the controversy but overall, most retailers would refuse to carry such a product. Heck, you might even get the government involved if you took it far enough. Plus, the people making such a game would be seriously crossing an ethical and moral line that the industry is already occasionally dancing on. Any company that pursued this path would basically be making products for the skinhead scene. And that's just messed up.

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What company would want to produce a game where you gun down Catholics like you do aliens in other games? You'd be labeled the Hate Crimes Corp. Just because there's a "market" for all kinds of hate, that doesn't mean it's right to cater to it.


Although I don't think anyone should make a spiteful game for spite's sake, if there is a market for something, by all means cater to it. If you don't, someone else will. Just... don't be surprised when you can't sleep at night.

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What company would want to produce a game where you gun down Catholics like you do aliens in other games?


Probably the same company that did titles like "state of emergency" and "BMX XXX".

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I think it would be best to cater to as many gamers as possible - a larger market means more potential sales. Sure, there are market niches for every type of game, but look at the success of Halo2 and the first Halo for that matter. It's a solid FPS that appeals to a larger variety of gamers. Due to the large market of gamers the game appeals to, Halo2's preorder was over a million copies.

How many copies do you think a publisher could count from a "politically incorrect" games, a hundred thousand? Maybe, at best, or possibly only a few thousand gamers would buy it. I don't think a publisher would even waste their money marketing a game that would only sell a couple thousand copies, or even a couple ten-thousand copies.

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The definitions of right and wrong are decided by society at large. As such, targeting one particular ethnic group in a multi-cultural society tends to create some resentment in a region were tensions can sometimes become strained. Some poeple can look at blantant racism, or crudness in a game and simply laugh at the sillyness of it all, others get their pitchforks and start screaming for blood.

There are examples of some games that have danced that line already, like Postal 1 and 2, which feature the killing of arabs, country hics with homosexual tendancies, a perverse form of environmentalists, Parents Against Violence (who ironicly are quite violent in the game), Meat Packers, Police Officers, postal workers, and the list goes on and on. The Postal series was banned from a number of countries, canada among them because of its violent content. Although the game primarily exists because its creators felt that violence belongs in video games, not in real life.

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Original post by GyrthokAlthough the game primarily exists because its creators felt that violence belongs in video games, not in real life.


The game existed because they thought they could make some money off it. There was no other reason.


Would a game where you gained points by raping women be ok because it creators felt that "rape belongs in video games, not in real life"?

Personally, I'm ok with violence in video games, as long as it doesn't target specific ethnic groups, religions, etc. But, I know that it's possible to go to far. Start making games about killing Jews or raping kids and you've gone too far. Period. Do people have a RIGHT to make such games? Yes, to a point. But there start to be consequences beyond bad sales when you express your free speech in certain ways.

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Original post by GyrthokThe definitions of right and wrong are decided by society at large.


Almost, but not entirely. We also have laws to protect the minority. That's part of the definition of democracy, namely, that it includes protection of minority rights. Otherwise you just have a rabble.

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IMO, making something just because you think you can get rich off of it is wrong. Which means a lot of big video game companies are on my bad list too, heh.

Come to think of it, why not make fun of this factor? Make a game where you have to search out famous people, break into their houses, and steal their underwear or sex toys or turds, which you then sell for big bucks to people who have nothing better to do than be obsessed with celebrities. :P

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