One step above Raycasting.
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Raycasting is cool, but I'm wondering if my 3D game should be something a little more advanced.
Basically, I'm going to write a 3D shooter, but I'm not going to use DirectX/OpenGL. All math is going to be done by hand in procedural-C.
In comparison to Raycasting, how difficult is it to write an engine very similiar to Doom? And if it all possible, is there any articles on the subject?
Quote:Original post by Westeria
RayTracing is cool, but I'm wondering if my 3D game should be something a little more advanced.
More advanced than raytracing? Well, I guess you'll want to go for photon mapping, then.
Quote:In comparison to RayTracing, how difficult is it to write an engine very similiar to Doom?
Doom employed raycasting, not raytracing. Raycasting is a very fast method for rendering pseudo-3d objects (no actual 3D transformations are done). Raytracing is a very slow method for rendering full 3D that tries to (partially) simulate the actual physical processes that transmit light from light sources to cameras. Photon mapping is an enhancement to raytracing that can dramatically improve performance, at the cost of significantly increasing the complexity of the technique. Neither raytracing nor photon mapping are anywhere near efficient enough to work in realtime on currently availanle consumer-level CPUs.
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I edited it before you posted Sneftel. [razz]
Seriously though, for a mod, you should have guessed I mixed the two up: considering how often they get mixxed up! [razz]
Seriously though, for a mod, you should have guessed I mixed the two up: considering how often they get mixxed up! [razz]
Quote:Original post by WesteriaThere's no need to be rude.
I edited it before you posted Sneftel. [razz]
Seriously though, for a mod, you should have guessed I mixed the two up: considering how often they get mixxed up! [razz]
Why don't you just look up the Doom source? It's open source now, you know.
You might also look around online for the code to Marathon 2, another old-school raycasting engine-based game.
Granted, digging through that amount of source code isn't easy, but you might be hard-pressed to find tutorials on the subject.
Granted, digging through that amount of source code isn't easy, but you might be hard-pressed to find tutorials on the subject.
Quote:Neither raytracing nor photon mapping are anywhere near efficient enough to work in realtime on currently availanle consumer-level CPUs.
I do remember coming across a raytracing game implementation in realtime.
http://www.realstorm.com/
Once again, DOOM did not use raycasting. :-)
That last link is to the doomsrc.txt file on id's own web site. The relevant files to check out in the source code distribution are r_bsp.c and r_main.c. You will see no mention of raycasting. It boils down to: "The basic rendering concept -- horizontal and vertical lines of constant Z with fixed light shading per band".
The gamedev dictionary should be updated.
cheers
sam
That last link is to the doomsrc.txt file on id's own web site. The relevant files to check out in the source code distribution are r_bsp.c and r_main.c. You will see no mention of raycasting. It boils down to: "The basic rendering concept -- horizontal and vertical lines of constant Z with fixed light shading per band".
The gamedev dictionary should be updated.
cheers
sam
RealStorm is VERY cool (everyone should check it out), but it's not a game, it's just a concept demo.
If you want to play an actual ray-tracing game, then search for "antiplanet". They didn't have a version that works on AMD processors last time I checked though, only Intel.
If you want to play an actual ray-tracing game, then search for "antiplanet". They didn't have a version that works on AMD processors last time I checked though, only Intel.
uhm, you should recheck realstorm.. there's a game demo available..
realstorm rocks.. at least on my athlon64 now.. on the celeron, it just plain sucked:D
realstorm rocks.. at least on my athlon64 now.. on the celeron, it just plain sucked:D
RealStorm is cool in theory but really, polygonal-based systems have far surpassed whatever raytracing may have promised us.. I mean sure it's a nice generic system but polygons+pre-calculated radiosity+shaders offers plenty of flexibility at a fraction of the processing costs..
But kudos to the RealStorm guys anyway for keeping the dream alive.. :-)
cheers
sam
But kudos to the RealStorm guys anyway for keeping the dream alive.. :-)
cheers
sam
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