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EDIT : crap thinking erased

dammit, I wish someone will find the answer...

[Edited by - ju on December 8, 2004 7:21:38 AM]

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dammit, I wish someone will find the answer...


Me too...I'm going crazy here. I've tried thousand different things and nothing just seems to work. Come on GameDevers, we're better than this.

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You know, if this turns out to be a hoax, I think it would be awesome if we all pitched in and made our own Website investigation puzzle maths thing. I reckon if we all pitched in, decided on some cool ideas it could be quite fun to build something like this.

In fact, it could probably be done across the forums, with one post to start it with a puzzle that points to a URL which goes to a developer journal, then another puzzle in that which goes to someone’s showcase with some clues pointing to an old post someone could edit and update with some clues. This way, not only would it be a fun game, it could be used to promote people showcases and journals.


01000001 01101000 01100001 00100001 00100000 01011001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01110011 01110000 01100101 01101110 01110100 00100000 01100001 01101100 01101100 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100001 01110100 00100000 01110100 01101001 01101101 01100101 00100000 01110100 01110010 01111001 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01100100 01100101 01100011 01110010 01111001 01110000 01110100 00100000 01110100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01110011 01101000 01101001 01110100 00100001 00100000 01000111 01101111 00100000 01100110 01110101 01100011 01101011 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 01110010 01110011 01100101 01101100 01100110 00100001

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You know, if this turns out to be a hoax, I think it would be awesome if we all pitched in and made our own Website investigation puzzle maths thing. I reckon if we all pitched in, decided on some cool ideas it could be quite fun to build something like this.

In fact, it could probably be done across the forums, with one post to start it with a puzzle that points to a URL which goes to a developer journal, then another puzzle in that which goes to someone’s showcase with some clues pointing to an old post someone could edit and update with some clues. This way, not only would it be a fun game, it could be used to promote people showcases and journals.


01000001 01101000 01100001 00100001 00100000 01011001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01110011 01110000 01100101 01101110 01110100 00100000 01100001 01101100 01101100 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100001 01110100 00100000 01110100 01101001 01101101 01100101 00100000 01110100 01110010 01111001 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01100100 01100101 01100011 01110010 01111001 01110000 01110100 00100000 01110100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01110011 01101000 01101001 01110100 00100001 00100000 01000111 01101111 00100000 01100110 01110101 01100011 01101011 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 01110010 01110011 01100101 01101100 01100110 00100001


"Aha! You spent all that time trying to decrypt this shit! Go fuck yourself!"

Took no time at all actually, using this. [wink].

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Documentation of another failure:

Thought I had it there for a second. Attempt was based on Erik Rufelt's work, assuming that the code is a sum in base 31.

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base - - - answer - - - in ascii(base 128) - - in 8bit - - - - - in decimal
base 31: - 29 13 8 - - -1 92 120 - \ x - - - -110 120 - n x - - 28280
...


when you take 28280 and put it into binary you get 110111001111000. I thought this was quite a nice sequence, so I then converted it to hex and got 6E78. Foolishly hopeful and looking at a much less curvy font than this I thought that that might be 1337sp34k for GET 8. It wasn't. Sorry :-) --and no, I haven't been trying all this time, just thought I'd have another quick go as a way of putting off revision.

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I think it would be awesome if we all pitched in and made our own Website investigation puzzle maths thing.


I was actually going to suggest that today. My mate and I are trying to work one out for ourselves to post on the net. Havn't got that far yet.

As far as this puzz;e is concerned...i'm at my wits end; tried bloody everything. If he says this filters the men from the boys yet a middleschool dude could work this out... it just doesn't add up. We must have done everything.

quite drunk now mind, so don't listen to any solutions i have come up with. Had christmas dinner at safeway today (Where I work). We got a box of chocolates and a bottle of wine. I then had to do quite a few hours overtime to cover my mate who was ill. Had some 'excrement' scream at me about this party tray that my mate had screwed up. Anyway, i got back and consumed the entire bottle of wine which is just less than my average nightly alcohol intake. I also had a load of rum during lunch to get me through the day. Sorry, babberling now.

Anyway, i'll try and keep at this thing. I'll pass it onto my mate aswell. Try and get as many people involved.

Loadsa love

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Hey c'mon guys, y'all can do better than that!

(Competing for longest coherent first post)

In the following I will assume this is not a proven hoax.
It'a got to be a port knock sequence, either encrypted (indicated by the structure ...23-1 23-1 22-2 ?) or unencrypted just telling which ports to try.
Lead on by a comment in another thread I don't remember (google) I looked up port knocking. What do you think? The host is called "ninebows", nine bows? Does this that the knocking sequence consists of 9 "knocks"? If so, the task is to find what ports (or what encrypted knock sequence) the numbers represent and try it out.
It is really not that far out or illogical, it's just a pretty steep progression from step 3. The author is clearly teasing when he states that school kids would be able to figure it out, though some undoubtedly would. Port knocking may be hack safe, but that's why he provided the bloody knock sequence on the page!
I think you need an ssh client to try it out and since I'm to lazy I won't try it out, but I know some of you will :)
I think maybe ninebows is a webserver with only port 80 open. It is managed over the net by performing the knock sequence, that is trying to connect to a specified sequence of ports (that the port knocking deamon recognizes) in turn and failing of course, since the ports are all set to deny. When you perform the knock correctly, abracadabra! you are given access to a certain port (23, 8081 or some other) for a certain amount of time. This scheme has been implemented in many more or less obscure ways.
Concerning the "encoding" problem, since this is a contest (The author in his blog), the encoding should be logic, say like an iq test. I lean towards two theories, having only superficial knowledge of TCP/IP, firewalls and port knocking:
1) The numbers are port numbers in correct sequence of 9 ports, in base 8, 10 or 16. Any other base would be ridiculous cause no computer uses that(!?) The + and - probably indicates shifting to left or right, in order to not make it obvious or guessable.
2) The numbers is a port knocking sequence in some specific system, probably common, in either base 8, 10 or 16. The + and - could be part of knocking sequence syntax (package format like {header, data, checksum, end}). The port opened could also be encrypted in the sequence.

I tried to access the ports in the browser (e.g.: ninebows.com:240), for some ports it reported that the port was diabled for security reasons (!), for others it specifically refused connection(!!).
If this isn't enough reason why this could be a genuine riddle, then I don't know the slightest reason.

Some other points:
* A google search yields almost nothing, mostly people getting stuck at step 3 over a period of several months.
* Nothing indicates that this is a hoax. It is way to elaborate to not go further than this. In his guest book, the author is asked if anybody made it past 3 yet. Seems not many are really trying.
* If we assume that it's not a hoax we must conclude either that hack.net is not well known or step 3 is pretty efficient against most people. But the real hackers don't share their secrects! Are there any real hackers?
* This will probably turn out to be another script kiddie like myself, setting up his first linux firewall and thoght he'd show it off in a clever geeky way. And these hacker games are quite cool and attractive, so why not plagiate to get some attention. <--- my best guess
* That rally car had the number 539 or something - is this significant at all?

I agree it's sad that many people have wasted their time on this not getting ANY further, but it is rather cool when you think about it. Now go and study and come back when you have the time. This cannot die until the most basic effort has been made to solve it logically.

Please don't give up, I wanna know the solution :)

(btw, I'm new here, been using the forums for info and fun the 2-3 yeras. I'll try and develop some manners should I find it worthwhile to post here :))

Let the race begin!

David


edit: fixed link.

[Edited by - Don Carnage on December 9, 2004 7:45:57 AM]

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