You shalt never have another pointless death.

Nazrix · 2000-11-02T01:20:44

If everything in a story-based game was really there for a reason, wouldn't it be interesting if the player's character never died. INstead the story would just be advanced. For instance, if the player were to try and steal an NPC's belongings and gets caught. Then the NPC would start fighting w/ the player. Then the player gets hurt badly enough to collapse. The guards drag the player into jail or throw the player outside the town and banish him. The player then has to deal with these situations and mend his wounds when he comes to or whatever else. There still is a consequence to the player's theft, but just not an ending to the game. The point is, instead of death the story would change because of the player's actions. The only time player death would occur is when it is a profound part of the story. How damn interesting is death (unless it does have a greater significance like being a martyr or something)? The player just either reloads a saved game or restarts, but if in place of death, a major change in the flow of the game's plot happens it's much more interesting. ""You see... I'm not crazy... you see?!? Nazrix believes me!" --Wavinator Nazrix, the yet-to-be-determined-cool half-liberitarian half-not-nihilistic-anymore-but-plain-confused messiah Need help? Well, go FAQ yourself. Edited by - Nazrix on 10/19/00 5:07:25 PM

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Started by Nazrix October 19, 2000 05:03 PM

33 comments, last by Nazrix 23 years, 5 months ago

dwarfsoft

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November 02, 2000 01:02 AM

LOL Naz, I coaxed you right into the point that I was thinking of for the past few days

. The player doesn''t have to kill anyone themself, they just injure them enough to knock them unconcious. This way you can take prisoners. This also allows the player to be taken prisoner. Actually, when writing up the storyline for my game, there is a part where if the player decides to stand and fight, they will eventually be overrun by guards (if they choose not to run) and in which case are taken prisoner.

Anyway... That is exactly the point that hadn''t been clearly stated. I thank you for your cooperation

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Nazrix

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November 02, 2000 01:08 AM

*LoL* You sneaky dwarf in human form!

Yeah I guess it can work both ways for the player & NPCs...kind of like in Thief where it was often better to just knock the guards unconcious because they''d make less noise.

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dwarfsoft

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November 02, 2000 01:11 AM

Actually, come to mention it, the most developed character in my game at the moment is the theif (or a derivative of such). Mainly started because of a cool cloak that I thought of. Allows hiding in the shadows in an ISOMETRIC game.. I haven''t seen that yet

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Nazrix

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November 02, 2000 01:13 AM

oh really? You mean the player would actually have to find where the shadows are to hide in them?

"All you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be --Pink Floyd
Need help? Well, go FAQ yourself.

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dwarfsoft

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November 02, 2000 01:20 AM

The theif character would be more suited to night time work. It has a few different ''spells'' that it can cast. The cloak just makes it less visible in dark places (hence night or shadows). It can also use a ''leap'' spell to help it onto the rooftops, and has a ''feather fall'' spell which works in conjunction with the first to reduce sound. Other than that, it has ''stealth'' and ''perseption''... Which I don''t think I need to go into. Anyway... I think this is getting OT...

Oh, yeah... Death... If it''s pointless it sux

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