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See you around, Freakfish....

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For those that don''t know what''s going on, check this out. I''m sorry to see you go, Landfish/Freakshow. I hope you''ll spend some time posting, or at least catching up with us, perhaps on ICQ, or on your website. I know you''ve been on the receiving end of more crap than most would be able to take, and certainly more than you deserve. You''re still the lead campaigner for Ending Goblin Genocide as far as I''m concerned. Good luck, and godspeed. People might not remember what you said, or what you did, but they will always remember how you made them feel. ~ (V)^|) |<é!t|-| ~
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Who knows where he''ll turn up? Didn''t he pull this crap before, only posting anonymously and then laughing when people thought someone else was him?
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I think so... in fact, YOU could be the elusive Landfish! But if you''re not, Landfish still gets to laugh at me for being the first to start guessing at which Anonymous Poster he is.

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I''m going to bribe MKV to let me know which one''s LF by using IPs hehe


""You see... I'm not crazy... you see?!? Nazrix believes me!" --Wavinator

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I think that we are losing a great mod, but anyway... As long as LF returns in a hidden form (even AP) then I will still be content to hear the rants and judge by my own opinion. . It will be sad though if LF chooses to leave us all... It is times like these that I really hate flamers *sob*

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Yes, I can see which AP is Landfish through the IP addresses.
And no, I will not give this information away. He has a right to anonimity.


People might not remember what you said, or what you did, but they will always remember how you made them feel.
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No we don''t need anonymous posters

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I'll screw up whoever screws around with the gamedev forum!

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...if they ever do.

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I'll screw up whoever screws around with the gamedev forum!

..-=gLaDiAtOr=-..
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quote:
Original post by crazy-vasey

Hopefully he''ll be back when the idiots go away.



The main problem with that is that he is an idiot.
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quote:
Original post by Gladiator

...if they ever do.




. . .apparantly not. . .


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quote:
Original post by Anonymous Poster

The main problem with that is that he is an idiot.


I think Landfish himself wrote that, the bastard...
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I cannot figure out which one of these AP''s are Landfish. Maybe they all are...tricky LF...


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Who cares, he is making himself more of a mystery by us pondering about it. His reputation grows from such posts. A person who is not afraid to beat themselves down is a person who can get a reputation by mysterious means

-Chris Bennett of Dwarfsoft - Site:"The Philosophers' Stone of Programming Alchemy" - IOL
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Sorry to see you go, Lanfish.

You do support the Specular Lightosis Research fund right?

Edited by - Pierre Zuluut on October 26, 2000 9:28:49 AM
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I personally find it sick to hide behind a mask of annonimity. First of all, he's going to end up having someone else hurt because people will think it's him and flame them. Heck, at this point i'm going to start flaming all AP's until landfish decides to own up to what's his and what isn't. If he wants to take no credit for his own words, then so be it. I'm a man who stands behind what I say, right or wrong. I'm willing to admit defeat, not run like a coward because things are too rough for me. I think it's obivous that landfish doesn't get along with the board, not the board doesn't get along with landfish. HE started 95% of all the crap, and now he's running because of it. Instead of ending the war he began, he's going to act like it doesn't exist.. how "nice" of him. I personally think that you other people should wake up to how he treats people. And how selfish it is for him to run away now. I left because I was disgusted with him, not because i felt like there was a lot of pressure or anything. Heck, i enjoy flaming landfish! I love to argue points back and forth. But when the person you're arguing with doesn't provide solid evidence one way or another.. then it's pointless. I feel like landfish is a child sitting there going "nu-uh, that's not how it is!" when he doesn't even know how it is. He's a child who wants to have his way, and his way alone. And you praise him for that?
Yes.. i want the gaming community to be different, but I'm not gonna go around telling other people their ideas are flat out wrong. That would be so counter-productive it's not funny. I'll tell them I personally *think* they're wrong, and i'll list why. I'll even make suggestions to the effect of "if it were me.. i'd do this". That way i don't force people to mull over why i think they're wrong.. and provides them with examples of what i feel is right. I take time to listen to people. Perhaps they haven't described their idea in a way i can understand.. well, telling them "no, that's wrong" like landfish does simply does NOT foster communication and constructive critizism. If he used some more tact in his thoughts, and didn't try to make them so over-emotional, then perhaps he would get much more acceptance. But you hafta think.. many of these people have enough emotional stress already (especially if landfish's whole 'you're a nerd, accept it' post is true), so why do you want to give them more stress? Why do you think they don't want it? DUH!
I personally know that teenage years was hard for me.. and that if someone like landfish had said things to me, i would have utterly blasted him like some people do.. without so much as regarding what he said.. which is what you accuse these people of doing. Look at what HE says, and try to think about it from THEIR point of view.

If you can't see both sides, you'd be better off blind!

J
Just call me Niphty, defender of the little people.


Some offensive language removed. -sunandshadow

Edited by - sunandshadow on November 2, 2000 10:31:25 PM
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I don''t think I''ve seen anything particularly bad that Landfish has done, on the contrary you see some people getting upset becuase someone is putting some interesting (and hopefully controversial) ideas on the board in order to make people think.
Sadly, these ideas have become incontrovertably associated with him, thus people have started to pigeon hole him.. ie. he is the guy who doesn''t want us to kill goblins in games.. which really isn''t what the guy was saying.
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Hrm, this is becoming very soap-opera like. I always thought that these kind of forums were supposed to be an impersonal discussion of ideas, rather than personal attacks. I think Landfish''s move is more or less a representation of the poor quality of the people on the board and their weak attitude towards others. It''s not that I particularly condone anonimity, or that I condone Landfish''s move, people should be able to put a name to their ideas. But at the same time, people should not bother putting up their "ideas" about why a person sucks, rather than ideas about why the person''s "ideas" suck.

Maybe if some people were just plain declared useless to society and we got rid of them then we could have more intelligent discussions between people with enough brains and ability to actually develop a concept and idea into something tangible or alternatively stimulates a growth in the industry or people''s enthusiasm for it.

I haven''t posted on any board for ages because I''ve kind of deemed it a waste of damn time!
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quote:

I think Landfish himself wrote that, the bastard...



Talking to yourself in the third person.. clever .

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Then, when you do criticize them, you will be a mile away and have their shoes." -- Deep Thoughts
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Niphty, I''m sorry, but I really haven''t done anything. I even tried to start a peaceful conversation with ncsu, and he lashed out at me. I tried to stop this dumb battle, and the best thing to do is walk away.

I really urge you to find a single time in any post on this board that I have ever called an idea stupid. Or dumb. Or any other discouraging word. I resent the implication that I have.

And I haven''t attacked you either. I really don''t know when you decided to hate me, and I''m sorry that it is so. I had a great deal of respect from you, and I''ve never heard an idea of yours I didn''t like. I wonder where the miscommunication was...

You''re thinking, "Oh he''s just apologizing to gain ground." That''s nice. I''m not. I just don''t like being accused of things I stand against, like the diminishing of ideas.

SUNANDSHADOW- This doesn''t have anything to do with Writing. If I were in your position, as I once was, I would probably delete it or move it to the lounge. Thanks.
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Yeah, this belongs in the lounge... Or help wanted (Everyone always needs a little help ). Anyway...

Like I said before, LF never just stated that an idea was crap. If he said that it wouldn''t work or that it was inconsistent or anything then there was always a reason for it. That is the difference with LF from others. If there is ever going to be criticism then it needs to be constructive with reason. I think that I learned to do this from LF and as such I only post if I have something relevant to say and something that has body. If I just posted ''That was crap'' then I would deserve such a schalacking... LF didn''t ever say anything like that, and I think that he deserves some respect. Even some who don''t agree with his opinions (Wav) still respect him. This wouldn''t be so if he just attacked people without justification.

I think that we can all learn from LF in that whatever you don''t believe in, whatever ideas seem to be misplaced and wrong, state why you think so and give alternatives. This is what would allow us all to grow and allow the ideas to grow. I think that this would be a benefit to GDNet and the game community in general.

Try and show a little respect for those that justly deserve it. You don''t have to agree with everyones ideas, but don''t get angry because somebody doesn''t agree with you... I know LF didn''t (much, anyway ).

That is yet another sufficient rant at an end

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Yes, I believe that people often mistake LF''s attribute of being opinionated with him being rude. There''s a big difference.
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Alright guys. I know pretty certainly who likes/hates/could care less about me. I'm really more interested in what Niphty has to say, because I didn't lie. We DID used to get along, and I want to know when his mind changed. So if you don't have any explainations, I'd like to hear from just the people with beef. Thanks.

Niphty, I'm having a really bad day. In some part you contributed to that day. So now, rather than making an attempt at civility, I'm just going to be honest and hope this post is moved to the Lounge soon:

Unless there's some huge misunderstanding here (which I really would like to believe), you have arbitrarily decided to lash out against me when once you gave me your respect. That is something I can't forgive (unless of course, this is some misunderstanding).

You've never provided me with any real evidence of why you don't like me, and when you have I have NO CLUE what you are referring to. You accuse me of doing things that I make a concious effort not to do, and things you frequently do yourself by the very nature of the posts in which you accuse them. On the more subjective side, I think you are being a liar and a jackass, possibly just to prove your own self-centric philosophies.

I really liked your ideas, your spirit, and yes, even your personality until you decided to sour on me. Why you accuse me of "Insulting people who have ideas I disagree with..." I cannot even begin to comprehend. If there are two people on this board with whom I disagree with most on any issue, it's Wavinator and Kylotan. I consider them both great friends, simply because I disagree with them, and they have PROVEN me wrong on several occasions.

You and your accusations have contributed largely to my day SUCKING this much, which is why I'm happy to write this all out for you. There's no one I hate more than someone who betrays a friend, but since you've made no effort to explain WHY EXACTLY you now feel this way about someone you once called a friend, I'll have to assume this is an outright betrayal.


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"The unexamined life is not worth living."
-Socrates

"Question everything. Especially Landfish."
-Matt

Some offensive language removed. -sunandshadow

Edited by - sunandshadow on November 2, 2000 10:34:30 PM
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Ok. These personal attacks will stop now. Both of you, take this off-line or into personal e-mail or instant messaging.
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