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PhillipH    122
I own a 2d rpg called magiknights.com and it is nearing its final release. (although updates will be done) wrote in vbasic. Now...ive been a programmer in various languages for many years and i am now at the stage to think about moving onto the next project. Several months ago i started learning Delphi 7 (very nice language and a good stepup from vb), and feel this would be ideal to program a 3d mmorpg. For a few weeks now i have been scouring the net for ideas and development tools (open source only) so i have some good starting points and to also begin gathering a team (as for one my graphic skills suck, and do not improve with time lol). I came across an excellent demo of pythian - the look is perfect for a starting point, and felt xmas had come finding it!! - unfortunately it is no longer developed - which is not tragic as i only want a base, but what is unfortunate is the fact the source seems to of disappeared from anywhere i look including sourceforge.net - ive tried to contact past developers of pythian to no avail. Can anyone provide the source? Are there any alternative open source small engines that look like pythian? It must be in delphi. Ive out the pythian demo for download here : http://www.siegewars.co.uk/3d Simply extract and run the exe in the engine folder. Any help on this would be appreciated, including landscape editors compatiable with delphi etc thanks for your time.

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Marmin    523
There are not much open source engines for Delphi, unfortunately (I've searched a lot). And maybe this post is not what you're searching for, but..

If you want a good free Graphics tool for Delphi (not an engine), take a look at glscene.org (that's a visual OpenGL tool for Delphi). It could give you a start into 3D rendering in Delphi.
There is a free 3D engine which can be used with glscene- this is called DelphiODE. (it's not rpg-related).

http://www.cambrianlabs.com/Mattias/DelphiODE/

And if you don't like OpenGL or GLscene you can do it the 'hard' way and go direct into Direct3D. :D Although there are much, much less tutorials/articles on that subject in Pascal than in C, obviously, Direct3D works perfectly in Delphi. (I use it).

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PhillipH    122
nope roboguy - there is no source code there, only demos.

Marmin, yep infact glscene was one of the first things i decided to use. ill check out DelphiODE - its actually in my favourites to check out sometime.

I had already installed glscene and the direct3d components as well as a host of other things, got all the demos working nicely. Its going to be a tough road but i feel i can achieve it.

what did you think of the demo at http://www.siegewars.co.uk/3d ? it was the perpective i liked (although i had some issues with the graphics in there - they were still cool). i used to play a game called myth2 soulblighter by bungie and its that kind of look im after.

would i use glscene ot the ode for the terrain creator? i didnt think much of the terrain graphics in the ode.

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Marmin    523
Well, I liked DelphiODE (although I do not use it, because I want to write my own engine) because of this race car demo, it's really fast (no it's not a porn link)
http://www.k00m.sexidude.com/download.php?op=geninfo&did=9

it's even got the source code with it.

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PhillipH    122
yep i just came back here, to change my mind about ODE, its very nice and will certainly aid me in my quest :-)

that car game certainly is cool. The great thing im finding is that these components basically mean people making small games very quickly indeed.

Doesnt take a rocket scientist to install either.

know any other terrain, or dungeon creators out there for delphi i could take a look at?

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Roboguy    794
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Original post by PhillipH
nope roboguy - there is no source code there, only demos.
the source code is there, but you might need to get it from CVS.

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PhillipH    122
sorry yep your right, hm well i think i have 2 choices - download each file with viewcvs lol or use this wincvs client ive just downloaded. Gonna have to work out how to use this thing i guess :(

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PhillipH    122
hm ok i got WinCvs working, however it downloads 3 main folders :

GLFORM
Phase2
Prototypes

it doesnt get any of the others, ie mapeditor. But it does seem like most of it is in phase2 anyway

could someone check? thanks.

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PhillipH    122
i notice in delphiODE components like TerrainRenderer arnt in the component list? Do i install them seperatly somehow or they arnt components?

thanks

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