Ok, im trying to determine if I should turn my meshes into triangle strips. I currently have everything rendered by triangles not strips so it I have normals for each vertex for each face. I am not sure if the normals would be different for vertices sharing the same face, but im pretty sure it is a possibility. While I probably do not need that increased detail at that cost. Also say i do decide to stripify my faces how to a make the corrosponding normal and texture verts? I assume I have to "stripify" them also by putting the corrosponding normals at the same indicies into the array as the vertex and such. Just making sure I cover the bases before I code this. Also are there any programs out there that will create strips for me? thanks Also, what size would be a good size limit for a strip, should I have a limit, or make the strip as long as possible? -THACO