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OK, i hope im alright posting this here, as im in need of an answer fast and knew i could get a good answer here. I want to start writing my own software and selling it legally. What is the minimal process for this? I want to use either Visual C++.NET or Visual C#.NET. Does the standard version allow you to sell for profit? please help. oh and what about Java? can i just write and sell java stuff or do i also need to buy special license/software? j

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no, you don't need a license if you are programming your games with C++


mmm, surely there are versions for personal use only and then version for commerical use? so your saying i can just but Visual C++/C#.NET for 70 quid and program whatever and sell it legally and wont get into trouble? i need to make sure :)

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well, im not positive, but i don't think you need a license for selling a game programmed in the compilers your talking about, you might want to double check, im not sure

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If you plan on selling a program you built with Visual Studio, you must have the commerical version. You could try and seel your programs you build with "enterprise" edition (or some other edition), but it would be illegal, and you'd be screw'd if you get caught.

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If you plan on selling a program you built with Visual Studio, you must have the commerical version. You could try and seel your programs you build with "enterprise" edition (or some other edition), but it would be illegal, and you'd be screw'd if you get caught.


ok, so is the standard a commerical version? or do i have to frk out for pro versions?

thanks for the fast replies you people :) appreciated.

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what about dev-c++ if i made a game with that compiler, i could jsut sellit right? i wouldn't need any commercial verison or anything.

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If you plan on selling a program you built with Visual Studio, you must have the commerical version. You could try and seel your programs you build with "enterprise" edition (or some other edition), but it would be illegal, and you'd be screw'd if you get caught.


That is incorrect.

You can legally sell products made with Visual Studio .NET Enterprise Architect, Enterprise Developer and Professional. You cannot legally sell products made with the downloadable Microsoft Visual C++ Toolkit.

However, I haven't been able to find a copy of the EULA for Visual C++ .NET Standard Edition. If someone can find a link (it curently is not located on the Retail EULA page at Microsoft's web site), I should be able to tell you.

Dev-C++ has no commercial use restrictions that I'm aware of.

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Looking at it another way; what if you developed your app with a "free" or cheap copy of VS.NET (student version, learning version, whatever) then compiled the final version with a free compiler (and by free, I mean something like GCC and not the downloadable VC++ toolkit)? Is it only the compiled binaries that matter in this case?

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Yes that would be fine.

AFAIK MSVC standard version you can sell commercially just like the pro, the difference is the standard version lacks the optimizing compiler.

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