Quote:Original post by Stonicus
Quantum mechanics is accurate... _____________(fill in the blank)

We already know it probably isn't. It doesn't fit quite right with General Relativity, so one or the other, or both, are innaccurate.

Quote:Original post by Daerax
Apparantly there has been independently verified experimental evidence, although this claim is hard to believe with its only source being the guardian article. There is though, independent verification of the theoretical possibility of an energy state of hydrogen less than the ground state hence, one which is not an integer multiple, which is ->the bad news. It is still 136 less extra states than what Mills predicts however.
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EDIT: found this: Wild Science: Entrepreneur Takes On Quantum Theory . Its been 5 years now.

The BlackLight website claims to have published it's experimental results in over 65 peer reviewed publications. Looking over the pdf bibliography, these include, European Physical Journal: Applied Physics, J. Appl. Phys., Am. Chem. Soc. Div. Fuel Chem. Prepr., J. Mater. Sci., Chemistry of Materials, Phys. D, Applied Physics, Thermochimica Acta, and so on. The majority of the dates of those publications are after 2000. You can find some of these papers on the BlackLight web site.

The Physicsweb article also reports that Mills theory has been verified by experiments, and puts the words into the mouth of Jan Naudts of the University of Antwerp: Naudts says that results of Mills and co-workers have recently been confirmed by a group at the Technical University of Eindhoven. Perhaps there's some mention of it here, Eindhoven University of Technology - Applied Physics, but I didn't find it. That website looks more like a brochure for the school more than anything else.

Quote:Original post by Zahlman
This can be read as though the reporter thought an ordinary hydrogen nucleus were more complex than that of the hydrino. :)

Yeah. The closest most reporters ever get to hydrogen is the water in their toilets.

@Dmytry - NASA's interest isn't in throwing away money but in developing a new fuel.

@Daerax - thanks for the links.

Hello all,

I came across this thread a couple days ago and have since gone over the BlackLight page, the Wikipedia article, and the Hydrino Study Group page linked to by the Wikipedia article (I also read a few of the news pieces written but they tend to be scant on details).

If you guys are looking for actual documentation of the confirmed experimental results, you can find it on the Hydrino Study Group page. They are supposed to be an independent study group that is discussing the theory and seem to be keeping an open mind as to whether its true or not. On that site they are hosting copies of the lab reports from the NASA Lewis Laboratory in Cleveland, Ohio; Westinghouse STC in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania; and the MIT Lincoln Laboratory among others.

I can't speak for the guy’s "Grand Unified Theory" (though it doesn't look like he's getting a fair response from the powers-that-be in the physics community) but it seems that his experimental results do show that something unusual is happening. Time and time again, the labs are reporting that the experiments are producing more heat than can be explained by normal chemical reactions and most of the conventional explanations that have been postulated by the critics have been, outright, debunked.

I'm not saying that the guy is right about the cause (though it would be cool if we could finally replace that inelegant, hole ridden, Quantum Mechanic theory with something more elegant) but its looking like there is, at least, something to his experiments/technology.


-Daedalus