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Virtual Pimp - A Real Time Pimp Simulator

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MatrixCubed    199
I have absolutely nothing to contribute to this thread, except:
a) this has to be the most entertaining post I've ever read on Gamedev
b) I would pay money for a copy of this game upon its release!

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_winterdyne_    530
My girlfriend had a fit (in a good way) when we saw 'Pimp Tycoon' on kazaa once, many moons ago... we downloaded having never heard of it elsewhere. She was gutted when it turned out to be Sim Golf. The description was almost the same as this thread. You now must do this game. You have a mission. Do it.

I think part of the description went:

'Take your ho's from the humble beginnings behind a dumpster at the back of McD's to penthouse celebrity whoredom... hook 'em on crack and keep 'em dry to get them in line!'

Will you have dumpsters?

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At first I thought this was a joke, and laughted from the game description.
But now I see he might have been serious.
This game is retarded.
Why can't you just watch south park to satisfy your culture rebelling needs and then go back to your daily job or school and to your conformist life in which you never broke the law even once?
You really think that in real life one person is involved in all the levels of activity?
The big boss never really deals with all the low levels working people like whores and drug dealers, because he dosent want to be linked to them when the police decides to do something about his buissenes.
Usaly there is one pimp for a dozen of whores and thats all, and there is no much action or intersting things going on a pimp's life.

I know you are all joking, but can't people do more positive things with their time then working on projects that are fun for some people just like some people like to watch videos of people eating their own crap?

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stylin    758
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... can't people do more positive things with their time ...

I was actually thinking the same thing while reading your post. [smile]

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At first I thought this was a joke, and laughted from the game description.
But now I see he might have been serious.
This game is retarded.
Why can't you just watch south park to satisfy your culture rebelling needs and then go back to your daily job or school and to your conformist life in which you never broke the law even once?
You really think that in real life one person is involved in all the levels of activity?
The big boss never really deals with all the low levels working people like whores and drug dealers, because he dosent want to be linked to them when the police decides to do something about his buissenes.
Usaly there is one pimp for a dozen of whores and thats all, and there is no much action or intersting things going on a pimp's life.

I know you are all joking, but can't people do more positive things with their time then working on projects that are fun for some people just like some people like to watch videos of people eating their own crap?

I dont get you. Are you one of these people that is easily offended? Do you want to ban games like GTA and abhor violence in video games? Why are you even on this forum?

With respect to complaints about the inner workings of real life pimps, I find it ironic that given your admitted distaste for vulgarity you claim intimate knowledge on the subject.

For your information Virtual Pimp will be a pimp SIMULATOR and I assure you pimps do deal drugs. Living in south Florida all our lives, its safe to say that we know better than your ilk.

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Original post by The C modest god
At first I thought this was a joke, and laughted from the game description.
But now I see he might have been serious.
This game is retarded.
Why can't you just watch south park to satisfy your culture rebelling needs and then go back to your daily job or school and to your conformist life in which you never broke the law even once?
You really think that in real life one person is involved in all the levels of activity?
The big boss never really deals with all the low levels working people like whores and drug dealers, because he dosent want to be linked to them when the police decides to do something about his buissenes.
Usaly there is one pimp for a dozen of whores and thats all, and there is no much action or intersting things going on a pimp's life.

I know you are all joking, but can't people do more positive things with their time then working on projects that are fun for some people just like some people like to watch videos of people eating their own crap?

I dont get you. Are you one of these people that is easily offended? Do you want to ban games like GTA and abhor violence in video games? Why are you even on this forum?

With respect to complaints about the inner workings of real life pimps, I find it ironic that given your admitted distaste for vulgarity you claim intimate knowledge on the subject.

For your information Virtual Pimp will be a pimp SIMULATOR and I assure you pimps do deal drugs. Living in south Florida all our lives, its safe to say that we know better than your ilk.

Why won't you make a game about being a raper?
Would it be OK with you if your sister or your mother was a whore?
Did you ever used drugs?
Maybe pimps also deal drugs, but they are not the people in charge of things.
They are operated by higher ranks people.
Your game is just like of a child's concept of how exciting is the criminal world.


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sysrpn    110
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Why won't you make a game about being a raper?


You can recruit gangs that will rape the other players whores, so we already have that base covered, and by the way, the correct term is rapist.

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Would it be OK with you if your sister or your mother was a whore?


Whatever someone want to do with their life is their own choice. If it upsets you than someone wants to be a whore, or do drugs, or commit suicide, its their decision.

Take a look at yourself and fix your own problems.

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Did you ever used drugs?


Without getting into it, yes.

Do everyone a favor, and if you don't have anything constructive to add to this discussion, close your browser, go back to reading your bible, take solice in believing that us heathen will burn in hell, and go away.

For everyone else reading this, I apologize for this jerk, but his reaction tells me that game concept is already a real winner. After the game mechanics are ironed out we will be looking for mission suggestions, so keep your comments comming.

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Why won't you make a game about being a raper?


You can recruit gangs that will rape the other players whores, so we already have that base covered, and by the way, the correct term is rapist.

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Would it be OK with you if your sister or your mother was a whore?


Whatever someone want to do with their life is their own choice. If it upsets you than someone wants to be a whore, or do drugs, or commit suicide, its their decision.

Take a look at yourself and fix your own problems.

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Did you ever used drugs?


Without getting into it, yes.

Do everyone a favor, and if you don't have anything constructive to add to this discussion, close your browser, go back to reading your bible, take solice in believing that us heathen will burn in hell, and go away.

For everyone else reading this, I apologize for this jerk, but his reaction tells me that game concept is already a real winner. After the game mechanics are ironed out we will be looking for mission suggestions, so keep your comments comming.

Why raping only whores? why not raping little children and elderly too?
Whats the point on raping whores?
Beside trying to make an anti social game, there is nothing in the gameplay which is actually fun or innovative.
If you male this game you sure will get attention.
But there is a way to get attention.
Somone once said:
"If you will fart in an elevator full of people, they are all going to remember you.
But they will remember that you are a stinking farter"
Excuse me if farter is not the correct word to use here, but you get the point.
By the way, when a pimp forces you to work as a whore its not "doing with their life whatever they want"

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sysrpn    110
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Why raping only whores? why not raping little children and elderly too? Whats the point on raping whores?

Raping whores lowers their stats and empties their cash giving to the opposing player.

Babies in the game serve no point unless they are crack babies. Massing crack babies unlocks powers like crack army.

Children are recruited into gangs. There is no point in raping them, though if you want it could be added as a game feature but it wouldn't have any effect on gameplay.

In Virtual Pimp there are no eldery people because after the age of fifty five they become a burden on society and are killed.

[Edited by - sysrpn on January 25, 2006 11:21:14 AM]

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sysrpn    110
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My girlfriend had a fit (in a good way) when we saw 'Pimp Tycoon' on kazaa once, many moons ago... we downloaded having never heard of it elsewhere. She was gutted when it turned out to be Sim Golf. The description was almost the same as this thread. You now must do this game. You have a mission. Do it.

I think part of the description went:

'Take your ho's from the humble beginnings behind a dumpster at the back of McD's to penthouse celebrity whoredom... hook 'em on crack and keep 'em dry to get them in line!'

Will you have dumpsters?

Thats a really good idea. Perhaps around the back of some buildings there will be dumpsters you can throw food into. Later this would attract homeless people from which you could recruit runaway girls. This would be fixed location for low cost whores with a high degree of loyalty.

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Well, good luck with your game.
I am sure a lot of people would like to play a game where you get points for raping runaway girls because they were hungry for food and went to a dumpster where you have put food.
You can also have the pimps make white films about raping babies and murdering people.
It is more likely the people that will be willing to play your game are also consumers of real white movies, so it would be wise to add this feature as well.

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sysrpn    110
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Well, good luck with your game.
I am sure a lot of people would like to play a game where you get points for raping runaway girls because they were hungry for food and went to a dumpster where you have put food.
You can also have the pimps make white films about raping babies and murdering people.
It is more likely the people that will be willing to play your game are also consumers of real white movies, so it would be wise to add this feature as well.


What exactly is a 'white movie'?

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Talroth    3247
I would play this game, why? because it sounds like something different. I play games because they are fun, and often have things you don't do in real life.

Would you like to play a game where you lift heavy boxes off one converoy belt, and put them on another, for 8 hours a day? How about a game where you get to try and keep your stress level low enough that you don't snap when you get little old granny calling for the tenth time because she doesn't know what you mean when you say three pronged outlet?

If a game like this offends you, DON"T BUY IT! Kids that use these as "training" are already fucked up enough to not be able to tell the difference between a game and real life, and are a problem already. Should 10 year olds be playing this? Hell no. I know some 20 year olds that shouldn't be allowed to touch a game like this.

The game sounds interesting, and a little different, and I want to know how it turns out.

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Vopisk    144
Okay, so, all assholes aside... I've been thinking all day while at work of "What would I want from a Pimp Simulator?". I think that most of the bases have definitely been covered already, however, I'm gonna try and come up with some new ideas.

Firstly, can we change the name of the Cracker pimp to White Trash Cracker? He can run around in a wife-beater t-shirt stained yellow in both the front and the back, be missing most of his teeth (as a result of smoking crack) and his pimp-mobile would consist of a ridiculously big truck, lifted three feet off the ground with four-feet tall tires, roll bars and KC lights, among other features. The white-trash cracker pimp, being the ginormous hick/hillbilly/redneck that he is, would focus on peddling crack and brute force to control his "work force". His goons of course would be Billy Bob and Bobby Joe (or other suitable redneck names) who happen to be two obese twin brothers who run around in nothing but a pair of tattered, stained blue-denim overalls.

Note: I may be channelling my step-dad into this role, but if the shoe fits, why not wear it right?

Secondly, I love the idea of bating and enslaving homeless young run-aways, I would never have thought of the idea but it's a thing of beauty. Also, as far as items go, these should not consist of merely pimp-upgrades. A pimp should be able to buy every sick, twisted type of sexually perverted toy to enhance the pleasure of both his whores and his clients, who we all know are dirty little freaks. This can include bondage stuff, giant black dildos or any other sick things that can be thought of. These upgrades would probably be whore-specific, so you could basically "equip" a whore with these items and they would serve to boost her morale or her money influx as a result.

Also, it is absolutely crucial that as whores slip into becoming "crack whores" the animation changes to make them look ever-more like walking skeletons so that a player can have a clear idea of which whores are doing too many drugs.

Perhaps a pimp(the greasy guido italian?) could also own a strip club, and use it as a front for his pimp empire, as many do.

In an idea that actually happened to come from Mister Conservative up there, why not, when the pimp becomes succesful enough, allow him to branch out and begin to hire other mini-pimps to help handle his girls, collect the cash and peddle the drugs to school children.

I remember back when I was in high school there was a ghetto called "Little Africa" like right across the street, and there was a park where the local drug dealers and whores would all hang out.

Anyway, more ideas, I already love this game...

Vopisk

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oh, and if you want to throw another gameplay option into the mix, can we also be able to move up the ranks in the police force, fighting the pimps?

This also opens the option of playing both sides at the same time. Be the two faced cop, taking bribes and stuff, and maybe even having your own drug and whore ring.

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sysrpn    110
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Okay, so, all assholes aside... I've been thinking all day while at work of "What would I want from a Pimp Simulator?". I think that most of the bases have definitely been covered already, however, I'm gonna try and come up with some new ideas.

Firstly, can we change the name of the Cracker pimp to White Trash Cracker? He can run around in a wife-beater t-shirt stained yellow in both the front and the back, be missing most of his teeth (as a result of smoking crack) and his pimp-mobile would consist of a ridiculously big truck, lifted three feet off the ground with four-feet tall tires, roll bars and KC lights, among other features. The white-trash cracker pimp, being the ginormous hick/hillbilly/redneck that he is, would focus on peddling crack and brute force to control his "work force". His goons of course would be Billy Bob and Bobby Joe (or other suitable redneck names) who happen to be two obese twin brothers who run around in nothing but a pair of tattered, stained blue-denim overalls.

Note: I may be channelling my step-dad into this role, but if the shoe fits, why not wear it right?

Secondly, I love the idea of bating and enslaving homeless young run-aways, I would never have thought of the idea but it's a thing of beauty. Also, as far as items go, these should not consist of merely pimp-upgrades. A pimp should be able to buy every sick, twisted type of sexually perverted toy to enhance the pleasure of both his whores and his clients, who we all know are dirty little freaks. This can include bondage stuff, giant black dildos or any other sick things that can be thought of. These upgrades would probably be whore-specific, so you could basically "equip" a whore with these items and they would serve to boost her morale or her money influx as a result.

Also, it is absolutely crucial that as whores slip into becoming "crack whores" the animation changes to make them look ever-more like walking skeletons so that a player can have a clear idea of which whores are doing too many drugs.

Perhaps a pimp(the greasy guido italian?) could also own a strip club, and use it as a front for his pimp empire, as many do.

In an idea that actually happened to come from Mister Conservative up there, why not, when the pimp becomes succesful enough, allow him to branch out and begin to hire other mini-pimps to help handle his girls, collect the cash and peddle the drugs to school children.

I remember back when I was in high school there was a ghetto called "Little Africa" like right across the street, and there was a park where the local drug dealers and whores would all hang out.

Anyway, more ideas, I already love this game...

Vopisk


Wow. Its great to see such postive suggestions. I like your ideas for White Trash Pimp.

We absolutely plan on allowing pimps to be customized and even more so as gameplay progresses, including the purchase of properties on the city grid. Pimp types would also have type specific specially items such as the white trash brother goons you described.

With regard to whores, we intend to allow the player to range their whores from high class escorts to massage parlor girls to common street hookers to vampire bitch goddess dominatrix and more.

Also, if I hadn't been clear on this, gameplay can progress using a mission based structure. Missions are spread around the map and can be acquired by interacting with the environment. Completing missions open up more pimp powers, give you access to important NPCs, allow you to purchase properties, and expand pimp arsenal. These are not marked on the city map or screen. You must click on and interact with NPCs or on screen items to find them. Keep in mind that some NPCs move around.

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sysrpn    110
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oh, and if you want to throw another gameplay option into the mix, can we also be able to move up the ranks in the police force, fighting the pimps?

This also opens the option of playing both sides at the same time. Be the two faced cop, taking bribes and stuff, and maybe even having your own drug and whore ring.


Sounds like a reasonable idea. Maybe Crooked Cop would be a selectable pimp type with a rank stat. He could have a shakedown command that allows his to take money, crack, and information from NPCs. Given these advantages, initially it would be more difficult for him to convert whores.

I definitely see Crooked Cop as different play style than the other pimps.

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Vopisk    144
Crooked cop? Please! Dirty Pig! :) Absolutely ZERO morally redeeming qualities remember? Make sure he gets a stat bonus when in the proximity of donut shops and has a gut to prove it!

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_winterdyne_    530
You're going to have to have a good variety of types of 'john', as well. Regular 'johns' could be tapped for favours - school principals to allow crack dealing in the school yard (increasing the incidence of runaways to the previously mentioned dumpsters and gang membership), evangelist ministers or catholic bishops could be tapped for cash or political influence... hell, throw rabbi's into the mix for fun as well. Can't be seen to discriminate in your offensiveness.

Of course different johns would have different whores in mind - the bishops go after the young rentboys, the ministers after the dominatrices, that kind of thing. Could vary it by individual, but I think the unmitigated and unfounded stereotyping has it's own kind of sick charm.

Every country has its own sheepshagger province, so you'll have to provide for them... umm. I'd like to stop thinking about this now. I feel a bit queasy.

There's a challenge - to make the first game to make someone physically feel sickened (and not by camera movement). I think this has a chance...

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Crooked cop? Please! Dirty Pig! :) Absolutely ZERO morally redeeming qualities remember? Make sure he gets a stat bonus when in the proximity of donut shops and has a gut to prove it!


Yes, Dirty Pig sounds much better. Donuts, good ideas. Perhaps eating donuts will also power up Dirty Pig.

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You're going to have to have a good variety of types of 'john', as well. Regular 'johns' could be tapped for favours - school principals to allow crack dealing in the school yard (increasing the incidence of runaways to the previously mentioned dumpsters and gang membership), evangelist ministers or catholic bishops could be tapped for cash or political influence... hell, throw rabbi's into the mix for fun as well. Can't be seen to discriminate in your offensiveness.

Of course different johns would have different whores in mind - the bishops go after the young rentboys, the ministers after the dominatrices, that kind of thing. Could vary it by individual, but I think the unmitigated and unfounded stereotyping has it's own kind of sick charm.

Every country has its own sheepshagger province, so you'll have to provide for them... umm. I'd like to stop thinking about this now. I feel a bit queasy.

There's a challenge - to make the first game to make someone physically feel sickened (and not by camera movement). I think this has a chance...


Good ideas too. Although certain john types might pay more or more frequently often specific whore types, I wouldn't make it an exclusive relationship. For example the minister might seek out the vampire bitch goddess whore, but will also visit other whores, though ministers that visit vampire bitch goddess will give you more bonuses.

Also, the city grid corners you keep shop on can change over time based on how you play the corners. As I said before, if you mix whores and drugs on a corner too much it will turn the block into a slum. A slum lowers the number and quality of pedestrian traffic, but also brings out new NPCs in that area for you to interact with.

Can you point me to this sick thread challenge?

Oh, we would also like to have a lot of random stuff that happens in the city, like roving gangs of wild teens, and a jack the ripper NPC that shows up every once in a while.

Keep the comments coming.

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There's a challenge - to make the first game to make someone physically feel sickened (and not by camera movement). I think this has a chance...


There's japanese-made simulator of serial rapist. With actual sequels. Pretty much has this particular field cornered...

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Might be as controversial as Sid Meier's ill fated SIM Concentration Camp.



Sid Meier's concentration camp Simulation ??

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