microsoft vs. bloodshed
I wouldnt know how to use most of those features and i have never had a problem with dev c++ the only reason i dont use vc++ is cause it wont install on my computer. SO in tht respect it sux for me.
The reasons I prefer Visual Studios:
-Editor is better than Dev-CPPs. I hated Dev's annoying auto tabbing, VC's is good.
-Debugger is easier to use and more straight-forward. Never really figured out that debugger in Dev, it liked to not stop at my break points.
-Example code has a VC project 99% of the time. Its always nice when you find that you don't have to put all the code into a new project just to compile a small example.
-Loads a bit faster than Dev does.
-Compiles faster, though it does sometimes not compile everything that needs to be compiled.
The first three are my main ones, though. The last two are fairly minor differences.
-Editor is better than Dev-CPPs. I hated Dev's annoying auto tabbing, VC's is good.
-Debugger is easier to use and more straight-forward. Never really figured out that debugger in Dev, it liked to not stop at my break points.
-Example code has a VC project 99% of the time. Its always nice when you find that you don't have to put all the code into a new project just to compile a small example.
-Loads a bit faster than Dev does.
-Compiles faster, though it does sometimes not compile everything that needs to be compiled.
The first three are my main ones, though. The last two are fairly minor differences.
For me, the debugger, the help functionality, the ability to create a Setup program from within the project, and most importantly the DirectX integration.
I personally like Visual Studio. The one major downfall is the price, as another poster has already mentioned, but if you go to http://www.learn2asp.net/ you can watch three webcasts and get Visual Studio 2005 Standard free. There is a thread in the Lounge about it.
I think VC++ is too "complex" for simple stuff, like code from books, simple little programs etc. DevC++ is much better for that. Launch, click "New", type the code and compile. In VC++ you have to wait till it loads, spend 2 minutes creating a project etc. etc.
But for something complex VC++ is essential.
But for something complex VC++ is essential.
if your absolutly sure there is no specific stuff for vsc++ ,can u tell me all of the stuff u need to download to get the best out of it. and also, what happens after uve had it free for a year?
Visual Studio is handsdown the best environment if you're developing on Windows.
With the Express editions being free (http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/), there really is no reason not to use it. (Contrary to what most people seem to think, the Express and Pro versions do not differ THAT much).
With the Express editions being free (http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/), there really is no reason not to use it. (Contrary to what most people seem to think, the Express and Pro versions do not differ THAT much).
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if your absolutly sure there is no specific stuff for vsc++ ,can u tell me all of the stuff u need to download to get the best out of it. and also, what happens after uve had it free for a year?
You can write code that can compile using different compilers on different platforms using visual studio. A perfect example of this would be the humus framework.
What do you need to get visual studio up and running? Well the express version is free as long as you download it before november of this year. If you download before november it will be free for you forever, but come november microsoft will start charging for vs express (but this wont apply to you as you will already have it) [smile]
Get VC++ Express and the Platform SDK and you should be good to go.
All the best,
ViLiO
free forever? i thought it was a year. but dudes, the only reason i keep goin on about ms specific and everything is cos i wanna learn c++, not microsofts visual c++
Say what you want about Microsoft, but when you get right down to it they ARE a software development company with lots and lots of money to pour into software development and, consequently, the tools that they use. A natural consequnce of this is that they have some of the best development tools in the bussiness, bar none! If you haven't, go get VC++ 2005 Express and play around with it for a bit. You'll be sold within a week.
The only REAL downside here is that they're windows-only, and I seriously doubt that's going to change any time soon...
The only REAL downside here is that they're windows-only, and I seriously doubt that's going to change any time soon...
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