# [.net] SetFocus technical training school is it worth it?

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 Original post by Strider_HiryuI have yet to spend $500 in learning tools and classes for getting into, or learning software development. If you're gonna get a loan for that much, you'd be much better off getting a degree. At least with that, you can go anywhere, as opposed to having a bunch of certifications for one particular trade. Who knows, after 5 months or so of training, you may not even like software development. Even if you want to just go for the networking, once again, I've spent far less than that in order to get 'connected' with people. It costs nothing to go out and meet people that like doing something, and 9 times out of 10, they'll be more than willing to give you the guidance you need. After all, you're on GameDev, that's a pretty decent connection in itself. You wanna meet people in your area that do tech stuff? Start at the bottom, and get a job doing helpdesk. do it for a year or two, meet people, improve your skill, and move up. At the least if you don't meet anyone, or decide not to pursue tech, you've made some money as opposed to losing it. i think we both have degrees. i saw another post by gekko and i think he said he got his 5 years ago. i got my bs degree in cs last year. School is great for the fundamentals, but once again, in the real world, experience is what counts and what will land you the job. Just think, if i were to take a .net class at school, i would probably go for 3 hours a week right? If i were to read a book in my spare time i would proabably read for 2-3 hours a day...Well, setfocus is training us for 40 hours a week and gives us real world projects. I figure that after this training i still wont be a guru or anything but i should have above average knowledge on the platform. youre right about starting at the bottom and working your way up, but it all depends on whats more valuable to you, money or time. the way i see it, if i can get a job paying at least 35-40k after this experience, it was worth the 17 grand. And i can pay that off within a few months and be done with it. I would prefer to go that route instead of working a help desk job for 13-15 dollars a hour for a year or two. My time is much more precious to me right now. [Edited by - jason02 on September 16, 2006 6:17:11 PM] #### Share this post ##### Link to post ##### Share on other sites Quote: Original post by jason02 Quote:  Original post by Strider_HiryuI have yet to spend$500 in learning tools and classes for getting into, or learning software development. If you're gonna get a loan for that much, you'd be much better off getting a degree. At least with that, you can go anywhere, as opposed to having a bunch of certifications for one particular trade. Who knows, after 5 months or so of training, you may not even like software development. Even if you want to just go for the networking, once again, I've spent far less than that in order to get 'connected' with people. It costs nothing to go out and meet people that like doing something, and 9 times out of 10, they'll be more than willing to give you the guidance you need. After all, you're on GameDev, that's a pretty decent connection in itself. You wanna meet people in your area that do tech stuff? Start at the bottom, and get a job doing helpdesk. do it for a year or two, meet people, improve your skill, and move up. At the least if you don't meet anyone, or decide not to pursue tech, you've made some money as opposed to losing it.

i think we both have degrees. i saw another post by gekko and i think he said he got his 5 years ago. i got my bs degree in cs last year.

School is great for the fundamentals, but once again, in the real world, experience is what counts and what will land you the job. Just think, if i were to take a .net class at school, i would probably go for 3 hours a week right? If i were to read a book in my spare time i would proabably read for 2-3 hours a day...Well, setfocus is training us for 40 hours a week and gives us real world projects. I figure that after this training i still wont be a guru or anything but i should have above average knowledge on the platform.

youre right about starting at the bottom and working your way up, but it all depends on whats more valuable to you, money or time.

im approaching thirty and i need to get my career started quickly. If i were 21, maybe i wouldnt mind working my way up.

the way i see it, if i can get a job paying at least 35-40k after this experience, it was worth the 17 grand. And i can pay that off within a few months and be done with it. I would prefer to go that route instead of working a help desk job for 13-15 dollars a hour for a year or two. My time is much more precious to me right now.

You've got a point. Thinking about it in terms of time(I'm only 23, still working on a degree) makes the world of difference. I was using myself as an example. That's pretty much how I got into software development. Perhaps by the time I'm in my 30s or 40s, a class like that would be useful to me.

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The real world wants real world experience, dealing with inaccurate requirements, ornery co-workers, unreasonable deadlines, and innumerable other nuances which no classroom can provide. That's why it's so valuable.

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 Original post by TelastynThe real world wants real world experience, dealing with inaccurate requirements, ornery co-workers, unreasonable deadlines, and innumerable other nuances which no classroom can provide. That's why it's so valuable.

exactly my point. that is why it is important for me to get into that environment as quickly as possible so i can get that experience.

the hardest part in the industry is getting your foot in the door, at least when you get your foot in the door you have a better chance at finding a job. but i have nothing right now. im not even doing anything IT related at the moment.

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i think im just going to try and do without one.
i figure it'll give me more time to read rather than clicking around on a computer. i can always "paper code", so im not too worried...just a little worried.

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you might be fine, because i think the setfocus facility will be open till 10 for most of the week. im sure theyll have labs and stuff there.

the only problem is, we might need to do some "all nighters" and it would be more conveinient to have a pc at your disposal.

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hey jason and GekkoCube which session are you guys going to?

2006Q3(Class Begins:Jul 3 2006) Parsippany
or
2006N3(Class Begins:Jul 17 2006) Jersey City

i'm still undecided. i might want to buy a labtop too if you want to go. i can't live without a pc.

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i cant live without a pc either!

i will be going to the july 3rd session in parsippany.

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im going to parsippany on July 4th.
so ill be starting class on July 5th (skipping 1st day of class).

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about getting a pc. i thought about getting one for maybe \$300. but i have a feeling it's going to be annoying carrying that notebook around.
i'm a pen and paper person myself so i can easily live without a PC.

for those all-nighters, i just can't do that.

ps - i havent even reserved a room at the Ramada yet! i thought setfocus reserved for us. so be sure to call in and reserve your room if you're staying at the Ramada!

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