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I thought I would post one of my weekly pieces :p Legions of Elvendale I was written as a speculative track to be used for opening theme music, preferably for an RPG or MMORPG. I spent a lot of time programming the strings as well, especially at the end. Enjoy and thanks for listening, Sean Beeson

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As per usual, the orchestration, musical ideas, pacing, development, the emotional content...is top notch.


Excellent work, good sir.

Ryan

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Fantastic work as usual, Sean. Really nice choice of instruments to layer. Choosing which instrument goes where is just as important as what they play and how they interact with other instruments. The subtle coloring at the end is a good example of that. Thanks so much for sharing!

Tony

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I agree with what everyone said, but the song does not have a catchy melody. It'll sound great in the game but might not stick in peoples minds.

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I use the same thematic line about seven times throughout the piece, but simply decided to not spoon feed it to the listeners. I was shooting for something that is thematic yet ambient, which is not as easy to write as one would imagine. You want the piece to be good as a whole and enjoyable, but try to not have anything invade the piece.

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I think it works rather well, but when you say it is in fact for an opening theme or menu the melody could come stronger here and there. If you're going to "spoon feed" anything to the listener it would almost always be either during menus or the opening theme. Just a thought.

Tony

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I thought I had the theme in their enough for people to remember it :p Maybe I just need to turn the volume up on the horns.

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Naw, I wouldn't change anything. Just playing a little devils advocate here, sounds great to me. We're just nitpicking. Hey, what projects are you working on these days anyways?

Tony

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I thought it was really cool, especially the Debussian moment at the end - were those crotales in the background? (the high metal mallets playing alongside the harps) I liked how their part sounded almost aleatoric, it really helped add to the feeling of confusion created by the chords and the harp glisses.

I'm wondering what you think about the mixing of the trumpets and the choir (I think I heard choir at around :50)? They seem to get drowned out by the instruments playing the C# drone, which is weird b/c trumpets usually would wanna blast through something like that, even when playing those short staccatos. Maybe it'd help to tone down on the drone? It could just be the EWQL trumpets too - I had this same exact problem with my old orchestra demo, it could only be solved by layering with trumpets from another library to get more "body".


Either way, really cool powerful song :)

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Wilbert Roget, II
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I withdraw my original message.

Sean, as I said before, you music sounds very nice but you will eventually find how to improve it, because there are always so many ways to improve.

If you ever want a friendly chat over yahoo messenger add me:
pedro_m_camacho@yahoo.com.

Or msn:
pedro.camacho@jazzclube.com

[Edited by - Pedro Camacho on August 5, 2006 9:57:16 AM]

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It is the theme to an MMORPG, thus the static nature of the piece.

I am familiar with Schenker and his analyses.

For this piece, I feel the form is where it needs to be. It was written to be slightly static.On a grand scale, an ABA form, and was originally even longer, going into a Bprime section.

When listening to is in this form, you might just get bored, but coupled along with a menu screen and character creation process you might not mind as much. This piece actually follows the same scheme as the theme to a very popular game as well, im not going to tell though :P

As for the trumpets. Thanks WR. I only had half a trumpet player that day :p Actually, it would have drowned everything out, thus the nature of me turning it down :) But noted otherwise. I mean how do I get those trumpets to play gently.

[Edited by - Sean R Beeson on August 5, 2006 10:05:39 AM]

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Once again Sean, remember that I am just trying to help you make your music sound even better.


How very nice of you. I am sure Sean will be very pleased.

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Thanks for the comments Pedro. I am re-evaluating the form of the piece, and thinking that I could expand on it.

The middle part originally was very short, and I expanded it, obviously using a form of repetition to make it longer because some folks said they would like to hear it repeat more, which I even found unusual because I was afraid that the piece would be overly boring :p

Cheers

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You just can't win. Personally I'd give up and look into basket weaving. I hear there's a real need for it in...somewhere.

Tony

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I don't know about the rest of you, but I've found a wonderful career as a professional chip taster. True, your mouth gets incredibly dry and parched after a full day of chip tasting...and sure, some of the flavors don't work out too much (hmmm, dirt and worm, wonder if that's any good) but it pays well.

:)

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I actually have been looking into getting my CDL. Why you ask?

I write music full time professionally, but sometimes I get rather separated from the world. I was like what are two bad things about being a full time composer. No benefits, retirement, insurance ect., and lack of contact to the outside world.

So I get my CDL and then drive school buses. Good hours, good benefits.

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So I get my CDL and then drive school buses. Good hours, good benefits.


Sounds like a sweet gig.

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I write music full time professionally, but sometimes I get rather separated from the world. I was like what are two bad things about being a full time composer. No benefits, retirement, insurance ect., and lack of contact to the outside world.


If you're smart with your money, play your cards right, and have a little luck, you can have all those things you mentioned. The AFM actually has a GREAT pension plan. I also take 10% of my earnings not covered by union contracts and stick it in an IRA. If you are incorporated, you can also set up a pension plan for yourself as an employee (though you do get hit with the payroll taxes). Being self-employed also allows you to deduct a lot of expenses from your income, possibly even medical depending on your situation.

The trick to all this is make sure you build benefits into what you charge your clients. Figure those benefits into your budget at the start of the project. That is, figure the total budget, then add a percentage for a pension contribution and a reasonable health insurace fee. You don't always have to show it on the budget sheet, but I often do if the budget is detailed and/or complex.

Most clients won't say you have no right to health insurance and a retirement. If they do, well, then you know what kind of clients they are. [pig]

As for the outside world, well, part of what I love about the music business is the people with whom I get to work. But, I also make a point of playing some competitive volleyball a few times a week. It's always nice to spend some time with people who have nothing to do with music, film, TV, or games, and only care how well you can pound the ball into the floor or sand!

Sorry for wandering so far off topic. Back to your regularly scheduled program... [embarrass]

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Muzo72. Thanks for the information. I will definetly be looking into some of the suggestions about pension and being a business.

Thanks,

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