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Installing MS VS 2005 without SP2 - Possible?

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readme    122
Is it possible to install MS VS 2005 with only Service Pack 1 and without installing Service Pack 2? My system runs perfectly fine, I can't possibly install SP2, because it'll make trouble with certain programs I know of and I'm not in the mood to change a running system. If not, what's the reason for that?

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benryves    1999
More and more software relies on parts of Service Pack 2 to run, so I'd guess not.

What issues do you have with Service Pack 2? You really should be running it... I've personally not seen any software stop working after installing SP2.

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dnsauve    181
It is possible. I did it on my work PC. heh.

It seemed to work too; at least I never ran into any problems.

It was a while back, but I think you need to grab the iso, extract it using isobuster and then, instead of running setup, run the install application that's in a sub-directory.

Sorry I can't be more specific. This was a long time ago and we've since moved to SP2 so I couldn't even replicate it to be sure.

Link to ISO

[Edited by - dnsauve on November 24, 2006 8:05:53 AM]

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readme    122
I found this.

Seems to be possible.

Question: These three applications (You need to make sure to manually pre-install Windows Installer 3.1, the .NET Framework 2.0 and the MSXML 6.0 Parser), what are these and can I install them without any trouble on a SP1 system?

I tried SP2 a while ago, didn't like it and my good old firewall has problems with it, too (not because of the MS firewall).

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dnsauve    181
Option 1 sounds about right. This is pretty much how I did. I remember messing with command line options to get it working.

MSXML 6.0 - Requirements list SP1 as acceptable.
.NET 2.0 - Lists SP2 as a requirement but I'd try anyways.
Windows Installer 3.1 - Will work on SP1.

So, looks like .NET 2.0 is the only problem here. I'd try anyways since I know for a fact VC2005 can be installed on SP1.

setup.exe /NO_BSLN_CHECK sounds like how I did it.

Good luck!

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readme    122
Well, if this guy lists it as a work around for a non-SP2 system, it should work, right? ;)

Still, what are these programs? Will they mess with anything else?

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dnsauve    181
They shouldn't cause any problems.

MSXML is an XML parser that you can access as a service from C++ (and other languages).

.NET 2.0 is a framework for a lot of applications. It can be used from any .NET language and it's actually pretty nice to work with. A lot of Microsoft software is using it now and it's actually built into SP2 and Vista.

Windows Installer 3.1 is the newest version of the windows installer engine. I believe it's what processes .MSI files. Not sure what's so special about 3.1, but I haven't had any issues with it.

You could always check the links above for more details about each app if you want to get the nitty-gritty details.

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readme    122
This reminds me, I'm still using VS 6 as primary tool.
You can install both VS 6 and VS 2005 on the same partition, right?
Also these three programs won't cause any trouble?

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dnsauve    181
Maybe some one else can confirm that, but I don't believe they will cause any conflicts.

Any specific reason you want both? VC6 is pretty old, and I don't think it conforms to standards very well.

2005 is free and much, much better.

I actually tossed my VC6 discs into the trash after I received 2005.

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readme    122
Well, it's just that until recently I just didn't need an upgrade. My programming projects aren't that huge or advanced and I didn't see a reason to switch to something else. Maybe I'll like it a lot and that will change.

But I will never surrender to SP2! My next Windows update will be Vista. Maybe.

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have you tried the /NO_BSLN_CHECK option of the vs2005 setup ?
Helps in a number of interesting cases.

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readme    122
I installed VS 2005 without SP2 as described, worked fine.
Only problem is that MS.NET and several VS 2005 files installed itself on C: without giving me another option, which is bad, since this is my OS only partition and this stuff isn't supposed to get there.

Other than that is seems to work fine although I have to setup VS to all the files and stuff yet.

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