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Unity MSVS6 Profiler follow-up - Bobboau

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I'm trying to run the profiler in Visual Studio 6 C++ and am getting the same problem as Bobboau in this old thread: http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=337967 Wondering if anyone has found the solution for this? Thanks much,

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Er.... most of us stopped using Visual Studio 6 years and years ago. So probably not... or if they have, they don't remember.

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Honestly, just switch to Visual Studio 2005. The express edition is completely free of charge for all purposes, including commercial use. It is better than VS6 in every way imaginable.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/

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I don't know of a profiler in VC6

But maybe you want to use AMD CodeAnalyst (tm)

http://developer.amd.com/downloads.jsp

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thanks...i've been contemplating this for a while but am worried about incompatibilities. it looks like the express version doesn't have code profiling though...


http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/aa700921.aspx

what's interesting is that the standard and pro versions don't have it either...I guess i'll be checking out some third-party tools if I can't get my current toolset to work

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I recall that VC++.NET had a profiler which was okay... but AMD CodeAnalyst is great, and integrates well with VC++.NET. (It might integrate with VC6, though I doubt it.)

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WHY are you using VC6? I'm willing to bet that the express (free) version VC2005 will compile to better code than the enterprise version of VC6, it has far better support for the C++ standard (VC6 was written before it existed), has a working CRT and STL (The VC6 version has a few bugs I seem to remember), and profilers exist that support VC2005.

This thread is a bit like saying that you're having a problem with the program manager in Windows 3.1 and wondering if anyone knows of any replacements. VC6 is a decade old, it came out before Windows 98 I think (Anyone care to confirm/deny?).

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This thread is a bit like saying that you're having a problem with the program manager in Windows 3.1 and wondering if anyone knows of any replacements. VC6 is a decade old, it came out before Windows 98 I think (Anyone care to confirm/deny?).


According to Wikipedia, Windows 98's release was June 25, 1998.

While I wasn't able to track down an exact release date for VS6, I did find this little snippet:

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From http://support.microsoft.com/kb/231943 with additional formatting:
MDAC Version    Release Date    Shipped With        Additional Notes
...
MDAC 2.0 07/01/1998 Visual Studio 98 No Web Release
...


It follows that VS6 couldn't ship before this date, which places it after Windows 98's release by nearly a week at least. Other comments place VS98's release "in the fall".

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Visual Studio 6 C++


In the eyes of many, myself included, this is an oxymoron. Visual Studio 6 was released prior to the C++ language being standardized, and deviates wildly from the spec in enough places for us to hold this opinion.

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> ...deviates wildly from the spec

sounds like a good reason to stick with what works for a big legacy code base...

I do have the profiler working now, though it's still pretty buggy. My main problem was trying to run the profiler from the Debug subfolder rather than the project folder. It couldn't find several of the dependent dlls because the current directory for the profiler was different than that for the program. Solution is to run via a batch file out of the main project folder, or copy all the necessary dlls into the Debug/Release folder.

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> ...deviates wildly from the spec

sounds like a good reason to stick with what works for a big legacy code base...


Sure, if switching to a sane C++ compiler means everything breaks. Fortunately, VS6's "C++" is mostly a minimalistic subset of actual C++... at least, the part that anybody actually used (being not 100% broken).

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How can you recommend someone VS2005Express when it doesn't even have Intelisense?!?! And visual assist doesn't work on?
I prefer my VS6 + VA + IS than just a crappy VS2005E...
Although VS2005 is better, but it's not free damn it! :)

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How can you recommend someone VS2005Express when it doesn't even have Intelisense?!?! [...]


What are you talking about, silly?


Hmm I don't call that Intelisense it's just syntax checking. When I say Intelisense I mean that when you write the dot / -> you get a pop up window with all the available methods of the object. And did I mention no support from the BEST VS productivity enhancer Visual Assist...

BTW, Don't call me silly! :)
Mikle

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Hmm I don't call that Intelisense it's just syntax checking. When I say Intelisense I mean that when you write the dot / -> you get a pop up window with all the available methods of the object. And did I mention no support from the BEST VS productivity enhancer Visual Assist...

BTW, Don't call me silly! :)
Mikle


Visual C++ Express does have IntelliSense (see this). It's true that Visual Assist isn't supported, but Visual Studio 6.0 is practically unusable today because of bugs and compatability problems (languages, libraries, tools and SPs) anyway. If a person can't afford the standard edition then they shouldn't buy Visual Assist anyway.

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How can you recommend someone VS2005Express when it doesn't even have Intelisense?!?! [...]


What are you talking about, silly?


Hmm I don't call that Intelisense it's just syntax checking. When I say Intelisense I mean that when you write the dot / -> you get a pop up window with all the available methods of the object. And did I mention no support from the BEST VS productivity enhancer Visual Assist...

BTW, Don't call me silly! :)
Mikle


What about this then, silly?

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How can you recommend someone VS2005Express when it doesn't even have Intelisense?!?! [...]


What are you talking about, silly?


Hmm I don't call that Intelisense it's just syntax checking. When I say Intelisense I mean that when you write the dot / -> you get a pop up window with all the available methods of the object. And did I mention no support from the BEST VS productivity enhancer Visual Assist...

BTW, Don't call me silly! :)
Mikle


I could swear it says IntelliSense at the bottom, must be my reality-bending goggles. Also, if you miss the things like Visual Assists, look up tons of good add-ins for todays IDEs.

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