# S = f(distance) that creates points of equilibrium (Help please)

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I need a function that makes particles move but stabilize at regular distances. Having two particles, each exerts a force over the other. I want the particles to stabilize at regularly spaced positions. It would seem that a simple thing should work: F = cos(x); S = S0 + F; Where S is the new position, S0 the old one and x the distance to the other particle. However, the particles keep moving back and forth (between to tops) or keep closing or separating if they started with some speed. I need some way of "damping" the function so particles tend to stay in the points where F = 0. Any idea?

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If I understand correctly, we have an discrete, autonomous, iterative model:

pi+1 = g(pi)
(in your terms, g(x) = x + f(x))

for real valued pj. Right? With a little care, we can define exactly which values of p will be fixed and if they'll be stable. For this, we'll need some linear stability analysis:

First note that there is a fixed point at any p for which

p = g(p)

Linearising about this point, we can write a new variable qi = p + ri. Now ri is very small. Using a Taylor expansion, we can show:

qi+1 = g(qi)
qi+1 = g(p + ri)
qi+1 = g(p) + ri*g'(p)/1! + ri2*g''(p)/2! + ...
qi+1 = p + ri*g'(p)/1! + ri2*g''(p)/2! + ...
p + ri+1 = p + ri*g'(p) + ri2*g''(p)/2! + ...
ri+1 = ri*g'(p) + ri2*g''(p)/2! + ...

Since r is small, it is safe can ignore terms of order r2 or above. This leads us to the approximation:

ri+1 = rig'(p)

This equation says that |r| will increase (i.e. the particle will move further away) if the RHS is greater in magnitude than 1. Similarly, the particle will return to its original position if |RHS| is less than one. It's only a approximate linearised model, but it's remarkably accurate for well-behaved functions g.

So here's how to put the theory into practice:

If you want a fixed point at x, make sure that g(x) = 0;
If you want this point to be stable, make sure that |g'(x)| < 1.

So, for equally-spaced 'attractor nodes', we could take your cosine model, remove that x term, and squash it a little so that |dg/dx| < 1.

g(x) = 0.8 * cos(x) would do the trick, as every zero-crossing has derivative ±0.8. Eventually, all points will settle down to their homes. (In your notation, f(x) = 0.8 * cos(x) = x).

On the other hand, g(x) = 1.1 * cos(x) would have unstable points at every cosine root, and no particle would ever stabilise.

I hope this helps.

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First of all, that was beyond greatness. Thank you very much.

Quote:
 Original post by TheAdmiralg(x) = 0.8 * cos(x) would do the trick, as every zero-crossing has derivative ±0.8. Eventually, all points will settle down to their homes. (In your notation, f(x) = 0.8 * cos(x) = x).

Each iteration, I apply a force radiating from each particle to the other... waaaait a second.

I was about to post a nice log with the positions and asking for help because the particles vibrated wildly. And then I understood. < 1 was the limit total force but I'm applying the force from both the particles to each other. With .4 it all works.

Then I've tried with more particles and I've seen when they accumulate enough force to become unstable and make one pass to the next x=0.

Then I've turned the 0.8 to 0.1 to allow for more particles.

And then I've turned it all into
0.8 / number_of_particles * Cos(d * Math.PI)

Which works just about perfect.

Anyway, you made me understand, so now I can keep exploring unhampered.

Thank you really very much.

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