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http://www.stencyl.com/about/ If you have never heard of Stencyl you do not know what you are missing. It is an incredibly powerful and easy to use engine. Perfect for the absolute beginner with virtually no programming experience.

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It looks great, but since the advertising (starting multiple threads in different forums) is so annoying, I'd refuse to ever use it.

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Actually, this look awesome, at least by the polishing of the site itself. And it's free also! So this leads us to the question: why such an awesome product is using copyrighted art and is being advertised by SPAM? It made me too afraid to install it on my computer.

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Well yes, it is "free", but it installs spyware on your computer. Look at it's privacy policy. And I do believe companies (Nintendo) can be quite harsh when it comes to using copyrighted material. I'm sorry, normally I wouldn't rip at a program like this, but seriously, spam advertising is one of those things that drives me insane.

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You know, I was interested in this engine (despite the obvious copyright infringement). I thought it looked useful, and I thought it might be something that I would check out and see if it was at least worth referring to beginners.

But your spam advertising has guaranteed that I will never recommend it to anybody. Good job, your ridiculous way of trying to spread the word has in fact cost you potential users.

Ass.

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My friend if you can at this point please delete your multiple posts or at the very least can a moderator delete his multiple posts (as in threads).

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Before you go too hard after the OP...

Reading through their forums it seems this spam occured one month ago already - and their forums say it wasn't the authors. It even turned out so bad they had to shut the forums down due to unexpected traffic.

While I'm in no position to verify either claims, you might want to at least give them the benefit of the doubt, especially since not now, not one month ago, the software wasn't ready for download, nor was anything else available, and as such doesn't really make much sense to start the advertisement spam.

This could possibly turn out to be a malicious attempt to discredit a perfectly valid project.

Just my 2c.

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Ok,

so I read their privacy policy just to see what that one guy was saying. I didnt actualy check the software itself.. but dude.. there is nothing that implyes malware or spyware in their privacy policy (like I said i havent checked the software, but if so its not written in their policy). What it does bare mention of is things used for every website under the sun, which most sites just dont mention (perhaps because it scares people like you). They are just being upfront and covering their ass that they are looking at your referrers, ip, storing logs, and using google analystics. Thats not malware, thats something almost every single website owner does it. That has to do with their website... not their software...

Like I said I havent checked the software, but if you gathered they use malware from the privacy policy.. i would like for you to explain your reasoning.. because I just dont see it.. at all.. and your hurting a possiably good project.

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Ok,

so I read their privacy policy just to see what that one guy was saying. I didnt actualy check the software itself.. but dude.. there is nothing that implyes malware or spyware in their privacy policy (like I said i havent checked the software, but if so its not written in their policy). What it does bare mention of is things used for every website under the sun, which most sites just dont mention (perhaps because it scares people like you). They are just being upfront and covering their ass that they are looking at your referrers, ip, storing logs, and using google analystics. Thats not malware, thats something almost every single website owner does it. That has to do with their website... not their software...

Like I said I havent checked the software, but if you gathered they use malware from the privacy policy.. i would like for you to explain your reasoning.. because I just dont see it.. at all.. and your hurting a possiably good project.

Yes, sorry, I should have been a little bit more clear by what I meant. I'm not sure how you define spyware, but for me, I consider spyware to be a program that collects unnecessary information for the purpose of redistributing that information to other affiliates and/or for any other purpose that is not required for the original, main program to function properly. Yes, you say nearly every website does this, which just makes me disapointed in every website; it doesn't make me feel better about them doing it though.

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My god. This guy doesn't quit, does he?

I'm contacted the GD.net staff yesterday, and this imposter is going to have his account removed. It really pains me to see somebody post in our/my name and elicit a bad response.

Sorry guys. This is NOT how I'd like my project advertised or spread around.

There are apparently several other threads that this spammer imposter posted. Please direct me to them, so I can have the GD.net staff remove them and ban the user.

Thanks,
Jon
Founder of Stencyl

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You know, I was interested in this engine (despite the obvious copyright infringement). I thought it looked useful, and I thought it might be something that I would check out and see if it was at least worth referring to beginners.

But your spam advertising has guaranteed that I will never recommend it to anybody. Good job, your ridiculous way of trying to spread the word has in fact cost you potential users.

Ass.

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My god. This guy doesn't quit, does he?

I'm contacted the GD.net staff yesterday, and this imposter is going to have his account removed. It really pains me to see somebody post in our/my name and elicit a bad response.

Sorry guys. This is NOT how I'd like my project advertised or spread around.

There are apparently several other threads that this spammer imposter posted. Please direct me to them, so I can have the GD.net staff remove them and ban the user.

Thanks,
Jon
Founder of Stencyl

Whatever.

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You know, I was interested in this engine (despite the obvious copyright infringement). I thought it looked useful, and I thought it might be something that I would check out and see if it was at least worth referring to beginners.

But your spam advertising has guaranteed that I will never recommend it to anybody. Good job, your ridiculous way of trying to spread the word has in fact cost you potential users.

Ass.

Seconded.

Thirded. Jon914, if you´re really the founder of Stencyl, and really no that imposter, then I wish you good luck with your project. I don´t like to see good projects crash down like that. Those spams still need to go though, whether he´s the real founder of Stencyl or not.

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Ok,

so I read their privacy policy just to see what that one guy was saying. I didnt actualy check the software itself.. but dude.. there is nothing that implyes malware or spyware in their privacy policy (like I said i havent checked the software, but if so its not written in their policy). What it does bare mention of is things used for every website under the sun, which most sites just dont mention (perhaps because it scares people like you). They are just being upfront and covering their ass that they are looking at your referrers, ip, storing logs, and using google analystics. Thats not malware, thats something almost every single website owner does it. That has to do with their website... not their software...

Like I said I havent checked the software, but if you gathered they use malware from the privacy policy.. i would like for you to explain your reasoning.. because I just dont see it.. at all.. and your hurting a possiably good project.

Yes, sorry, I should have been a little bit more clear by what I meant. I'm not sure how you define spyware, but for me, I consider spyware to be a program that collects unnecessary information for the purpose of redistributing that information to other affiliates and/or for any other purpose that is not required for the original, main program to function properly. Yes, you say nearly every website does this, which just makes me disapointed in every website; it doesn't make me feel better about them doing it though.


Why in the world does it bother you? This is necessary marketing information.. its nothing spying on you. Basicaly, they are seeing where people are coming from, sites they are getting traffic from, which countries are looking at the software (for instance, sites like ebay and amazon would use it to determine how important a seperate language version of the site would be for those people). This information is generated AUTOMATICALY by most hosting companies.

Malware is software in your PC which transmits information and displays advertisements or interferes with computer operation

Spyware is software which tracks your actual internet and computer habbits

Nothing in the privacy policy mentions either, its simply "we want to find out how you got here, we DONT care about your surfing or computer habbits, and we arnt spying on you", which im guessing what they are seeing right now is "people are responding to spam", LMAO.

EDIT: even according to your definition, this is not spyware. As its not a program residing on your PC that is collecting any information whatsoever, its just simple (necessary) information generated by the webserver running on THEIR PC. Thats not spyware, and I havent heard of anyone argue against THAT sort of information before... geh.

That being said, please dont believe im taking a stance for the website, I believe spam is wrong and I believe these guys are behind it to be honest. Both are new accounts. One guy sends the spam, the other tries to respond to it to generate publicity and remove an association to spam. Why they are doing it for an opensource (am i correct?) application is beyond me though. It does make you wonder.

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They're not behind it; I know two of the members of the Stencyl team (Jon and HopeDagger) and they're quite irritated by this spam, which they certainly weren't responsible for.

The Stencyl stuff is really cool, go try it out. I'm sorry you guys have to learn about it from this tactless spammer.

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