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Is Lucid Dreaming Bad?

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I have been having lucid dreams for quite some time now, and I wonder if there are any negative repercussions resulting from lucid dreams. Although many lucid dreamers advocate the activity (including Stephen LaBerge), I think there may be some negative side effects to the phenomenon. For instance, I frequently wake up from lucid dreams especially if I breath in too quickly. And can it be good for a person to have all of their wishes come true in such a vivid fashion? I wonder if this esoteric practice has been researched enough to advocate it so strongly as LaBerge advocates it. Sorry for the loaded question, but what do you think? Are lucid dreams bad for one's body or mind? Oh, and I also wonder if they are inherently immoral... but let's save that for another day. [Edited by - anothrguitarist on January 25, 2008 8:46:05 PM]
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I had a friend who lucid dreamed once. And he ended up dying.

So I suppose with that kind of sample group, yes, it's quite dangerous.
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I find that if you take unisom extra strength sleep gels, you can get great lucid dreams. 50mg ea. If you take say, 150-300mg, you'll get totally fucked. Out of body, ego loss, etc.So if you can't die from that, I'd imagine you cant die from a non-drug induced lucid dream.


Speaking of which, try taking like 4 unisoms, what you're experiencing now is merely the tip of the AWESOME iceberg.
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If you continue dreaming, I see nothing but a future of pure and utter evil coming to you. Why not aid your fellow man instead and end these silly, irrational notions that you call "dreams"? Come together with him and work for the greater benefit of all.

[Edited by - BITWISE CHE on June 23, 2007 1:20:21 AM]
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as you have said, i doubt enough research has gone into studying the lasting effects of habitual lucid dreamers. for now, the best advice is probably moderation. experience lucidity sometimes, and other times allow some dreams to run their course --- which i think is even HARDER to do especially if you are conciously aware that you are dreaming
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as you have said, i doubt enough research has gone into studying the lasting effects of habitual lucid dreamers. for now, the best advice is probably moderation. experience lucidity sometimes, and other times allow some dreams to run their course --- which i think is even HARDER to do especially if you are conciously aware that you are dreaming


Yes, that is why I bring up this topic... I can't seem to stop having lucid dreams. Not necessarily because I enjoy them so much, rather I seem to have them naturally now. Perhaps if I more forcefully deny them, they will cease. Of course that may be difficult...

Edit: Err, I'm kind of contradicting myself there... What I mean is that it may be difficult to forget about them and such
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as you have said, i doubt enough research has gone into studying the lasting effects of habitual lucid dreamers. for now, the best advice is probably moderation. experience lucidity sometimes, and other times allow some dreams to run their course --- which i think is even HARDER to do especially if you are conciously aware that you are dreaming


And you're qualified to post commentary on this, how?


EDIT: Oh right, you're a doctor. Me too.

Dx: You're an idiot

Rx: Fist your mother

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eh? i was just commenting as a member of this community o_O''

the previously stated comment is my opinion and ideology -- do things in moderation.

anyhow, i myself have also had a 'lucid dream' stage in the past and from my own personal experience, the capability to achieve lucidity is like a muscle -- you have to work on it in order to make it stronger. and if you leave it alone for long enough... well, like all other muscles........
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I lucid dreamed my way out of a Mexican standoff once, so in a way it saved my life.
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Lucid dreaming is bullcrap, but it isn't harmful. It makes you a little bit lame, like the guy who wears a cape to play PnP RPGs, but it doesn't do anything bad to your psyche. More than anything, lucid dreaming is a mode of introspection (assuming the phenomenon is real, which I somewhat doubt, despite having practiced it myself for several months.)

So, in conclusion, don't stress too much about it, unless your fear is that you'll become a hippie mystic dork, which is a very real danger.
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Lucid dreaming is bullcrap, but it isn't harmful. It makes you a little bit lame, like the guy who wears a cape to play PnP RPGs, but it doesn't do anything bad to your psyche. More than anything, lucid dreaming is a mode of introspection (assuming the phenomenon is real, which I somewhat doubt, despite having practiced it myself for several months.)

So, in conclusion, don't stress too much about it, unless your fear is that you'll become a hippie mystic dork, which is a very real danger.


What does lucid dreaming have to do with mysticism? And why don't you think it exists?
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There's no way to know whether you're really having a lucid dream or whether you're just having a normal dream about lucidity. It brings up old free will issues.

The fact that people treat a lucid dream as a parallel universe inside the mind where you have the powers of a god is what causes many devotees to get a little weird about it, and I classify that sort of belief and behavior as "hippie-assed bullshit".
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The fact that people treat a lucid dream as a parallel universe inside the mind where you have the powers of a god is what causes many devotees to get a little weird about it, and I classify that sort of belief and behavior as "hippie-assed bullshit".


Lucid dreams are just dreams in which you are sufficiently 'awake' to consciously direct the events of the dream. I don't see it raising any more questions about the nature of free will than simply being awake.

I also don't quite get your connection with mysticism either. Maybe you've just been unlucky enough to come across some complete dorks who also happen to be interested in the subject. Most people I've come across are perfectly capable of talking about lucid dreaming without coming across as hippy weirdos.
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Lucid dreaming killed my cat.
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if it doesnt require drugs your probably ok. I don't think your body is very good at naturally killing itself (bar aging).

hitler practiced lucid dreaming!
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Lucid Dreaming is a state of mind in which your body is asleep with a wakened mind. Nothing dangerous about it. I had plenty of lucid dreams when I was nothing, and I came out of fine(I was already messed up, so don't worry, that's normal).

As a kid, have you ever had wild (day) dreams? Did you die from it? No, and nor will lucid dreaming kill you.

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the thing with lucid dreaming is its ties to enlightenment... so to ask "can it be good for a person to have all of their wishes come true" seems suspect
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Sometimes I will lucid dream every day for weeks and sometimes not at all for months. It hasn't affected me at all. Lucid dreaming isn't something new and no one has died from it yet.
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hitler practiced lucid dreaming!


Oh shit! You may not die but you may get urges to take over Europe and exterminate the Jews!
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I can only guess as to the possible "negative" repercussions of lucid dreams, since I'm simply a fellow lucid dreamer and haven't researched the topic.

The quality of your REM sleep is the only side effect I can imagine being perceived as negative. After a night of lucid dreaming, I feel as though I never got a true break from reality, which I'd bet is connected to being kept in a state of shallow or no REM.

As for the psychological effects, if you can maintain a mental barrier between fantasy and reality in other aspects of your life (movies, games, pornography, etc.), I doubt this will be a problem.

I remember being concerned over one sexual lucid dream experience where the girl protested having sex with me and being transformed into someone else with the phrase "No! I'm real!". She then proceeded to point out all of the people around us (we were in a gymnasium) and claim that they were real too. I'm not sure what it all "means", but that was one night that didn't end in make-believe sex!
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Are lucid dreams bad for one's physical or mental health?


Yes. Eventually, you'll die from that or anything else. So... BEWARE!
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I only have lucid dreams during particularly disturbing dreams. And as long as you don't continue to thing you're an unstoppable kung fu maniac after you wake up, you should be fine.
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the dreams are casting from your brain...
and this means that are not a real object anyway...
but that are creating generally from real records on brain..

before some years i was see any day nightmares...
and i tryed to control my dreams...
i can say just it is rely possible...
because dreams are just thinking...
but when sleeping they are so powerfull.
because the brain hawe more resources to use...

also i was saying some times hey i was see that before this...
sometimes the dreams can show the future...
but thats just our brains analyses...

i was able to see some small thinks about future on my dreams...

but i cant do it now...

to getting control on dreams my tecnic is trying to stay awake when sleeping...?
or trying to remember this is a dream when you see a dream...
this worked when i tryed that more then 3-4 weeks at 1998?~

but you need to know...
for able to rendering data ...
the necessary data should be loaded firs on your brain...

i dont know is this looking so stupid...
but thats are some tecnichal...
and this is not a joke completely....

the dreams are just trainings of brain with real simulations generally...
but sometimes errors occuring...
like any complex system...

also i was using that to debug my programs but now it supports just 15 -40~? chrs maximum...

i hawe a car accidend and 4 years a stupid wor with stupid peoples...
i think this is why my brain is damged...?
i tryin to turn it back but not again with dreams...
that takes too long time...
may be later...
but detailed dreams means your brains cpu or gpu is worging better then standards...
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If lucid dreaming makes you like this, then yes it is bad for your health.
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