New Roller Coaster game that will beat all roller coaster game in the world.

StylizedCarfan1 · 2008-03-04T07:37:25

It a game called Ultimate Ride:Limitless It a better version of Ultimate Ride Coaster Deluxe with a mix of NoLimits making it the highest detailed roller coaster game in the world along with photorealistic graphic. I don't know anything about game development, so I'll post here just to see if anyone going to do this a whole lot of work. If you need me to talk to company, just tell me which company, I'll check if it fake or not. NOTICE: 1/4 of these are in NoLimits.1/4 are in URCD. And 1/6 is in both. NL stand for NoLimits UR stand for Ultimate Ride The 3D mesh format here are very useful. 1.Ability to twist and rotate like in Maya, but it has to calculate the position of coaster piece.-This mean that it calculate the position of coaster piece, then the rotator will rotate to that position without changing the coaster piece unless you touch it. 2.Ability to do things in NL but much quicker and easier like selecting row ball and create line.-This have feature of NL,but you can extrude and that'll create new line and ball. After doing that and you click preview support, it'll generate mesh of roller coaster. 3.Mental Ray Render-Render feature of mental ray 4.The game must be maded with any possible program. 5.Different texture in wood. Since that how real life is like.-Real life have texture that aren't the same alway. It'll alway be different no matter what. 6.The ability to set the amount of support like How many XYZ. 10X 10Y 10Z would be 1000 support per track piece.-This is useful expecially for wood coaster. 7.The ability to export the any file file to .obj, .3Ds, or .fbx.-This is the whole game model of roller coaster, terrain, and props 8.Ability to calculate the XYZ of a track piece, create line from the XZ direction.-This mean it calculate XYZ position. If the coaster is X25 and the Z is 35. You'll able to extrude and create ball from that. 10.Support creator menu.-That mean having option for part of line of support and many option including roller coaster sensitivity which is how sensitive and if it 1,00 sensitivity it'll look like it following the shape of coaster. Ability to detach line and make it separate. Ability to connect. 11.Ability to put support as track prop but the support must be facing vertically.-This mean it a track prop calculating position of part of roller coaster and it'll end up facing vertically or on the neccessary postion 12.Create things like they do in real life loop to support loop-Real life have loop that isn't common. 13.The tree must be some script for the game render to render it as full3D detail 14.There must a script to render grass as 3D 15.The game itself must support bump, normal, and displacement map.-This one is self explainitory. 16.No fake roller coaster mesh, hate it.- This mean every little detail 17.Ability to export to .ma(Maya ASCII File) 18.Ability to set how much detail on the coaster, even the crossbar, the ability to set the crossbar to different count. 19.More actual realistic scale. 20.Realistic sound like in NoLimits 21.Some sort of mix of UR and NL 22.A built-in video tutorial, I hate learning by myself sometime. 23.The ability to create support manually like in NoLimits, but not only XYZ in Nolimits, I want calculation of position and the ability to move X,Y,Z separately.-This mean moving X mean moving left or right, Z front or back, and Y the height of things/ 24. Right click at the support and the ability to set the thickness of support of just use menu to change the thickness of support universally.-Kinda of extrude cylinder with faces stay stuck together, and change the thickness of support. 25.Ability to import mesh or create a terrain like in NoLimits.-Self explainotry 26.A lot of feature from UR and NL. 27.All the tree must be unique and different as well as grass, plant, and so on. 28. Changing and realistic weather effect, when the roller coaster make sound energy through water, the water must be in higher frequency.-Real life does this, so add this. 29. Sound effect must be realistic, if the coaster go through a cave, there must be echolocation. 30.Ability to set reflectivity of a part of roller coaster.-This involves the material menu. 31.Make changing material effect to separate piece of coaster.-This involve moving your mouse to the material menu. 32.No mickey mouse and stuffs. 33.No fake turbobooster. Use real life brake and acceralator. 34.Ability to change the effect of the brake and acceralator like in NL. 35.The coaster will have slight or no effect of what around you. Unless a large place where echolocation usually come should have a huge effect. 36.Ability to import element and put it to the coaster. 37.Ability to switch menu to UR to NL as well as NL to UR. 38.Full 3D coaster mesh. 39.Texture can be up to big size. 40.Much more photorealistic.-This mean no fake stuffs, no fake bump, and no fake detail, no sharp edge, no bad looking render, the physic is real. 41.Add the ability to generate texture to an enviroment. Add normal, bump, displacement map to the enviroment as a tool to the terrain creator.-This is on the main menu where is terrain creator inside the game. 42. New challenges. 43. You can view and edit the coaster height graph affect the coaster real time. 44. Generate roller coaster height from top view of roller coaster.-This is importing roller coaster pic and make it generate it by images. 45. Ability to import images of roller coaster and place it as reference as well as moving the reference pic, scaling and so on.-This mean importing images and rescaling mesh of that image, rotating for reference. 46. Many option from NL.-Option that NL have. 47. Please add the ability to import mesh and import it as coaster piece, prop, support, or even part of enviroment. 48.Ability to make it look like your time. If it 10:00 PM, it should be night. If it 7Am, it should be morning. 49.Unique texture for each track piece 50.Specular map for roller coaster piece.-This edit the reflectivity to certain area. 51.The ability to edit the tie.-One editing of the tie can affect the other. 52.There will be never the same texture for wood. 53.Adding dirt to the footer and bottom of the support.-This will involve right clicking support, dirt generator, and then edit the factor. 54.Ability to change the shape of support from square to cube, or even more shape.-This will edit the support by editing the basic shape of it from a editor inside the game, if the support is circular and manipulate it from an editor it'll look like an edited circle or something else. 55.Tie and support must be beveled edge involve.-Like I said, no fake things. 56.Multiple dock, and the ability to adjust the rotation of it XYZ. 57.Ability to adjust a material type by everything.-Reflectivity, spectacular. 58.Some unique effect in the enviroment, if the noise came from the roller coaster, it'll cause an avalanches if in it a large snow mountain. 60.Material from various 3D program will be accepted and viewed correctly in the simulator. 61.All NL's track type. 62.More than 100 material affecting roller coaster mesh along with the ability to edit UV, add texture and so on. 63.The coaster must look like it has an effect if it an old coaster, like rusty. 64.Built in texture creator and editor in the terrain maker. It like photoshop brush tool and make it as normal, bump, displacement, set image size rescale, brush size and so on. 65.Ability to move prop X,Y,Z separately. 66.Ability to change the color of the prop inside the simulator. 67.The older the coaster, the more changes come into the coaster. 68.More detailed tree. 69.The imported prop can have effect on the terrain, if it touch a terrain, it will not go through. 70.The cloud must look 3D 71.Unique event to the sky, like rocket is blasting in the sky. 72.In the night, the more light there is, the less likely you're going to see the stars. Some part of NL and UR just won't support the above part, so I added the nonsupported part. Due to the mix of game: It'll shorten the time and make the track faster and better. Anymore idea may be appreciated. Any progress on this game should be appreciated.If you have any question, feel free to ask. [Edited by - StylizedCarfan1 on March 1, 2008 8:34:43 AM]

Game Design and Theory Game Design

Started by StylizedCarfan1 February 29, 2008 09:21 PM

34 comments, last by d000hg 16 years, 1 month ago

d000hg

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March 03, 2008 07:39 AM

No it isn't. Programming is 0% maths unless you are programming something to do with maths.

teebee

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March 03, 2008 07:55 AM

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Quote:Original post by d000hg
No it isn't. Programming is 0% maths unless you are programming something to do with maths.

Don't want to flame or anything, but you are wrong. Programming and programming skills are closely related to math. Please do not assume that math is just adding and substracting :)

Metallon

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March 03, 2008 08:17 AM

On-Topic: You seem to have a pretty good idea of what you want, Sty. I only learned my passion for games some months ago. You can definitely work towards being a graphics designer. Then you can form a team and start developing your game. Just do some research, accept how things are and try to work your way up.

Off-Topic: Programming and Maths have logic in common. I find myself using logical thinking a lot while doing maths. Interprating and understanding statements, variables and problem solving are prominent in both, I would presume.

My brother, who is a Maths genius, has done some programming and holds a PhD in physics told me that I shouldn't have problems with programming due to the amount of logical thinking in it. How could he know I was good with logics, if I've never done programming before? Simple: He's seen me do a lot of Maths.

d000hg

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March 03, 2008 02:09 PM

Quote:Original post by teebee
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Quote:Original post by d000hg
No it isn't. Programming is 0% maths unless you are programming something to do with maths.

Don't want to flame or anything, but you are wrong. Programming and programming skills are closely related to math. Please do not assume that math is just adding and substracting :)

"closely related" is not the same as "the same". Programming can involve lots of logic but lots of programming you do has very little to do with maths. I mean to you the programmer, not how the program is actually compiled or executed.

If you want to continue this, then tell me how a web application which receives data from submitting a form and stores the data in a database is going to require maths skills from the programmer?

Metallon

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March 03, 2008 02:47 PM

if 3(x + 6) = y and x = 2

then 3(x + 6) = 24

else if x = -2

then 3(x + 6) = 12

Rather shabby example but basically we're using some simple logics using if/else. While your suggestion may not have required maths per se, large parts of programming require logic. And logic is a big part when reasoning with Maths. Not necessarily calculating with Maths, but when it comes to understanding the things behind the stuff you do.

I know almost nothing about programming but the little time I spend with GML and watching my friend Martin program, I get the impression that being good at Maths helps.

d000hg

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March 03, 2008 04:13 PM

Few people do logic as part of maths... and then the level of use of it is trivial in programming.

I'm not disputing that the kind of thinking used for mathematical reasoning isn't very useful in programming... aptitude for maths and programming are often related.

StylizedCarfan1

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March 03, 2008 04:23 PM

Logic as math? Don't you mean math as logic? And also math are used in programming nowaday. Without math, we wouldn't have good feature, we wouldn't have 3D model, we wouldn't have 2D game, we won't have animation. Math is used in programming all the time since the old day. I'll use math for 3D model.
One vertex can be X1, X2,X2 or other X1.2002,Y2.131,Z3.14134 or other infinite combination, 3D modeling is based on math. Smoothing is part of math. If you smooth a mesh 2 polies, it'll turn 8 polies, then smooth again. NURBS is based on math. Everything you see in a game is all based on math.

JBourrie

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March 03, 2008 04:41 PM

Quote:Original post by StylizedCarfan1
Logic as math? Don't you mean math as logic? And also math are used in programming nowaday. Without math, we wouldn't have good feature, we wouldn't have 3D model, we wouldn't have 2D game, we won't have animation. Math is used in programming all the time since the old day. I'll use math for 3D model.
One vertex can be X1, X2,X2 or other X1.2002,Y2.131,Z3.14134 or other infinite combination, 3D modeling is based on math. Smoothing is part of math. If you smooth a mesh 2 polies, it'll turn 8 polies, then smooth again. NURBS is based on math. Everything you see in a game is all based on math.

The .jpg compression algorithm is heavily grounded in complex mathematics, but my mom can save a .jpg file without even knowing what "compression" is. Filmmakers can create movies without knowing the mathematics of how the shape of a camera lens effects the image. They just know that "this" lens looks this way and "that" lens looks that way.

Similarly, many, many people in game development don't know all the complex mathematics involved in graphics/lighting/physics/etc. Not only artists, but also some programmers are not highly mathematical (I should know: I'm one of them).

Sure, logic is a branch of mathematics, but it's only a small part of the subject. Just because I can make a mean fried egg doesn't mean I'm a great chef: similarly, just because I can think logically doesn't mean I'm a mathematician.

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d000hg

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March 03, 2008 07:12 PM

Also, the point being discussed was that PROGRAMMING itself is essentially maths, not the problems you are solving. Of course if you are doing physical modelling you have to do explicit maths but in many programs you never do anything beyond arithmetic.

Edtharan

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March 03, 2008 09:12 PM

Quote:Are you saying rendering 100,000,000 polygon in 1 second is possible?

Not really. It might be one day, but that wasn't then point. The point was that no matter how good your graphics engine is, even if it is many times better than today's graphics engines without the gameplay to drive it, it is not a game. Get he Game right first.

Quote:I'll learn on programming though, it shouldn't be hard though since it all mainly math.

Yes it is mainly maths (not all maths as some here seem to have read that). Learning programming will not teach you how to turn an idea into a game design. It will help enable you to turn that game design into a game, but ther eis still a lot to learn.

The logical thinking and breaking up what you want to happen into descreet instructions is a good excersize for transforming your ideas into a design.

Game design is different from programming and it is differnet form Art. However, it does use some of the skills form each and so a grounding in both is an advantage. Also, if you are having to make a go of it on your own, knowing how to program will be essential.

Quote:"closely related" is not the same as "the same". Programming can involve lots of logic but lots of programming you do has very little to do with maths. I mean to you the programmer, not how the program is actually compiled or executed.

Yes Programming is not 100% maths, but neither is it 0% maths at any point. Maths is not just about Numbers. Mathematics is a formal system of symbolic representations of process.

For instance, combining two sets (set theory is also maths) containing 1 apple the other containing 1 apple into a set that has 1 and 1 apple is represented by 1+1=2.

Well how does this relate to your question:

If you want to continue this, then tell me how a web application which receives data from submitting a form and stores the data in a database is going to require maths skills from the programmer?

Well a database is a collection of data, it is a Set! Set theory is maths. As shown above. Althoguh you might not be doing maths (as in calculations) it still requiers you to think mathematically.

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