Would you consider Thief II an RPG?

Carnivorous Duck · 2001-06-13T11:46:45

It had RPG elements - Compelling storylines, (scripted) NPC interaction, character development in the form of item purchases - and certainly FPS elements - first person view, action-oriented combat. Would you say that it falls under the RPG category? What are the defining aspects that make it an RPG, or a non-RPG, in your opinion?

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Started by Carnivorous Duck June 12, 2001 07:30 AM

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Nazrix

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June 12, 2001 02:22 PM

quote:Original post by Wavinator

It's interesting to see at what point a cRPG crosses the line and becomes a simulator. Thief to me was almost a "Thief Simulator," which was really cool. It didn't have the freedom that I've come to expect in a cRPG, but it certainly put you in a role.

The way I thought of it, it does give put you in the role, but gives you the option to ignore the role somewhat. It just punishes you for not acting like a Thief. You're free to run around like a madman slashing at everything you see but you won't live long. It rewards thinking like a thief.

I guess it doesn't offer as much physical freedom in the form of exploration as most RPGs but I think still don't find that the most crucial part of an RPG...although that's just me of course

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Edited by - Nazrix on June 12, 2001 3:24:56 PM

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Kylotan

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June 12, 2001 07:00 PM

I'm not old. Just chronologically challenged

I don't mean to bash the people who bring these things up again, especially when they're new to the forums and didn't really have the benefit of being there for all the past discussion. It just can get a bit tedious sometimes to feel that it's going round and round in circles.

And I love Thief, btw. So it's not like I just dislike the game. It's one of my favourites, ranking alongside Laser Squad, Doom, and Ultima VII

Edited by - Kylotan on June 12, 2001 8:02:33 PM

Cyberdrek

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June 12, 2001 07:12 PM

To say the truth, Thief II is a Stealth FPS( First Person Shooter ). It didn''t even come close to an RPG. An RPG will, in MOST cases, have a character with stats that can be incremented depending on your actions and behaviors...

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MadKeithV

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June 13, 2001 01:31 AM

quote:Original post by Kylotan
ranking alongside Laser Squad

You''ve played Laser Squad??? You actually KNOW that game? Man, I HAVE to do a remake of that game, it was just too excellent. (I remember doing that multiplayer on a Commodore 64).

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Kylotan

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June 13, 2001 11:36 AM

quote:Original post by MadKeithV

You've played Laser Squad??? You actually KNOW that game? Man, I HAVE to do a remake of that game, it was just too excellent. (I remember doing that multiplayer on a Commodore 64).

Heh. I didn't just play Laser Squad, I lived Laser Squad.

There was nothing better back then. A lot of people don't know that the X-COM and UFO games were essentially Laser Squad sequels.

If you or anyone else cares, these games were made by Mythos, who apparently went out of business fairly recently due to apparently being treated pretty poorly by their publishers. But the team have resurfaced as CoDo Games and appear to be working on another Laser Squad game! They seem to be sticking with turn-based, but making it playable on a lot more platforms, with a global league system of some sort. Similar to play-by-email technology, apparently. Looks interesting.

Anyway. If anyone wanted to work on a Laser Squad style game, I'd certainly be interested in such a project

(PS. Anyone wanting Laser Squad for the PC can get it here, with full permission of the authors.)

Edited by - Kylotan on June 13, 2001 12:46:45 PM

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