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speciesUnknown

I dont know any mongolians.

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Thanks to my job selling burgers, which I only quit last year, I've met a huge variety of people in person. I've worked with kurds, arabs, asians afticans, north americans south americans and europeans I also went to a very mixed college, lived with pakistanis, poles, africans, south americans, north americans. Thanks to the internet ive also had conversations with israelies, palistinians (sometimes at the same time with interesting results) But I never met anybody from mongolia. I've not worked with a Mongolian, lived with a Mongolian, or chatted with a Mongolian on IRC. Where are all the mongolians? It's as if they only live in Mongolia or something. I feel they are very under-represented. [edit] Just to clarify - im aware that mongolia is in asia. The thing that puzzles me is that you can name nearly any country you like, and I can think of somebody I know or used to know who is from that country. Mongolia is an exception, despite its size and population count.
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I think they don't like you and try everything possible to avoid you.
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This thread is silly for a number of reasons.

How exactly do you know you haven't met any Mongolians?

You already said that you've met Asian people. Mongolia is in Asia. How do you know they weren't Mongolian?

Since you've met some Africans, do you feel you've met them all? Same goes for South Americans, North Americans, Asians, etc. Take a look at how many countries there are in each of these continents, then look at how many ethnic groups there are. Just for fun, also look up how many languages there are in each of them.

Why is it so important to meet someone from Mongoila? Why not Uruguay? How about the Congo? New Guinea? Jordan? Barbados? Marutitius? Mauritania?

What exactly is your understanding of under representation??? Underrepresented where, underrepresented how? Are the French overrepresented in France?

P.S. You also have a gross sampling bias. For example, to lots of people, hamburgers are culturally unfamiliar. Simply put, my parents never eat hamburgers, because we are foreign.

[Edited by - fpsgamer on April 27, 2009 12:03:37 PM]
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There was a mongolian in IRC a few days ago. I did an IP2location on him and we discussed mongolian culture a little bit. Also someone randomly said something along the lines of "should I have mongolian bbq or pizza?" and the mongolian was like "I'd go with the bbq". It was a pretty good time. You must have been AFK.
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I've met a bunch of Mongolians in Las Vegas. You just need a change of venue [grin]
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This thread is silly for a number of reasons.

How exactly do you know you haven't met any Mongolians?

Perhaps I did, perhaps as Sirisian said I just missed them, or met them in passing.
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You already said that you've met Asian people. Mongolia is in Asia. How do you know they weren't Mongolian?


I look at a map of asia and I can think of somebody I knew from most of the countries there. Cambodia is another exception, im not aware of having met any cambodians.

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Since you've met some Africans, do you feel you've met them all? Same goes for South Americans, North Americans, Asians, etc. Take a look at how many countries there are in each of these continents, then look at how many ethnic groups there are. Just for fun, also look up how many languages there are in each of them.


OK, africa is a big continent and I've known people from roughly half the countries there. I've worked with people of Nigeria and South Africa in particular. I had a conversation with somebody from Zimbabwe for 2 hours on a train a few years ago. Our views could not have been more opposite... but I'm sure we each learned something.
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Why is it so important to meet someone from Mongoila? Why not Uruguay? How about the Congo? New Guinea? Jordan? Barbados? Marutitius? Mauritania?


I'm not aware of the last two, but there were two students from the Congo at my college a few years ago, I worked with somebody from New Guinea. Ive not met somebody from Jordan.. Besides, I thought Guinea is split into two countries?
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What exactly is your understanding of under representation??? Underrepresented where, underrepresented how? Are the French overrepresented in France?

P.S. You also have a gross sampling bias. For example, to lots of people, hamburgers are culturally unfamiliar. Simply put, my parents never eat hamburgers, because we are foreign.


In hindsight yes, there are loads of countries whoes occupants I've not spoken with, but Mongolia is a big place. Some countries heavily mix with the sort of anglicised culture that I'm from, others do not, and the distance from where I live (UK) isn't directly correlated.
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Ever met any one from Malawi? Honduras? Bhutan? Djibouti?

No, yes (we dated for about 3 months), no, no.
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In hindsight yes, there are loads of countries whoes occupants I've not spoken with, but Mongolia is a big place.

In land area. But with only 3 million citizens (excluding expats), the chance of meeting one is as big as meeting anyone from a random reasonably large city somewhere in the world.
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When I was in Japan, I met a "girl" who was allegedly Mongolian although I'm fairly certain she was actually a man. I'd feel really let down if she wasn't actually Mongolian!
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Ever met any one from Malawi? Honduras? Bhutan? Djibouti?


Not that I know, but I did meet someone from Eritrea.

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I suppose Eritrea could count as Djibouti. I just threw Djibouti in there because the name lends itself well to comic riffing in American English.

In college I was friends with a girl from Malawi. I've met people from El Salvador, Costa Rica and Panama, but never from Honduras (to my knowledge). I included Bhutan to round out the trio and because I wanted to add an Asian country to the list.
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did you even met any Lithuanian? Lithuania has somewhat larger population than Mongolia, and is part of EU; plus Lithuanians go to work in UK a lot (most people are taught English as second language).
I'm pretty sure I would not expect to meet any Mongolian, given that they are just 2.2 millions and given that it is real hard to migrate to developed countries from most of rest of the world (it may look to you like migration is too easy, but that's misleading)
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Maybe it's because Mongolians are nomads by nature and don't have the desire to travel in droves around the world? That and the fact that the entire country only has about 3 million people in it.

A friend of mine spent 2 years in Mongolia and upon return to the US met one at a mall in St. Louis. Turned out about 15 families all lived within a mile of eachother and they ate together every night. The only reason he knew they were Mongolian was from their accent.
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The grad student who shared my cubicle space was from Inner Mongolia (although that's in northern China, not the nation of Mongolia).
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This is the one and only mongolian I'd like to meet right now:


*nervously handles a pair of tape-scissors*
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Where are all the mongolians? It's as if they only live in Mongolia or something. I feel they are very under-represented.

They are everywhere.I saw them in London,for instance.They are even in Iraq.This is their second visit to Iraq,the first was in XIII century,when Chingis Khan captured Persia. Do not surprise that they speak on russian-Mongolia has a close links with Russia and China.[smile]

[Edited by - Krokhin on April 30, 2009 10:18:54 AM]
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[quote name='owl' timestamp='1240955366' post='4447292']
This is the one and only mongolian I'd like to meet right now:
[img]http://farm1.static.flickr.com/109/313184958_56cfc38d3b.jpg?v=0[/img]

*nervously handles a pair of tape-scissors*
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wow me too ^.^ she looks cool.
did you found this pic from google?
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[quote name='speciesUnknown' timestamp='1240832628' post='533066']
Thanks to my job selling burgers, which I only quit last year, I've met a huge variety of people in person. I've worked with kurds, arabs, asians afticans, north americans south americans and europeans I also went to a very mixed college, lived with pakistanis, poles, africans, south americans, north americans.Thanks to the internet ive also had conversations with israelies, palistinians (sometimes at the same time with interesting results)But I never met anybody from mongolia. I've not worked with a Mongolian, lived with a Mongolian, or chatted with a Mongolian on IRC.Where are all the mongolians? It's as if they only live in Mongolia or something. I feel they are very under-represented.[edit]Just to clarify - im aware that mongolia is in asia. The thing that puzzles me is that you can name nearly any country you like, and I can think of somebody I know or used to know who is from that country. Mongolia is an exception, despite its size and population count.
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Hey we Mongolians are everywhere ^.^
[left][size="2"][color="#1c2837"]Why is it important to meet someone from Mongolia?[/color][/size][/left]Have you met any Mongolians?

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[quote name='sharavsambuu' timestamp='1322431816' post='4888230']
[quote name='speciesUnknown' timestamp='1240832628' post='533066']
Thanks to my job selling burgers, which I only quit last year, I've met a huge variety of people in person. I've worked with kurds, arabs, asians afticans, north americans south americans and europeans I also went to a very mixed college, lived with pakistanis, poles, africans, south americans, north americans.Thanks to the internet ive also had conversations with israelies, palistinians (sometimes at the same time with interesting results)But I never met anybody from mongolia. I've not worked with a Mongolian, lived with a Mongolian, or chatted with a Mongolian on IRC.Where are all the mongolians? It's as if they only live in Mongolia or something. I feel they are very under-represented.[edit]Just to clarify - im aware that mongolia is in asia. The thing that puzzles me is that you can name nearly any country you like, and I can think of somebody I know or used to know who is from that country. Mongolia is an exception, despite its size and population count.
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Hey we Mongolians are everywhere ^.^
[left][size="2"][color="#1c2837"]Why is it important to meet someone from Mongolia?[/color][/size][/left]Have you met any Mongolians?


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Wait wait, i'm a lil confused here, you quote someone saying he's surprised he's never met a mongolian and you ask him if . . . he's ever met a mongolian?
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So I actually got curious and wandered off to the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolians_in_the_United_Kingdom#Demographics_and_population]great big internet in the sky[/url]:
[quote]The 2001 UK Census showed that a meer 299 Mongolian-born people were residing in the UK, however this figure of a few hundred is thought to have increased to several thousand in the space of a decade.[1] To be precise, community leaders and the Mongolian Embassy have put the figure at between 5,000 and 7,000.[1][2] Within the UK, the overwhealming majority of Mongolians reside in Greater London with 2009 estimates placing at least 5,000 Mongolians in the British capital, the Mongolian community of Manchester follows which is 400 to 500 members strong (up from 72 Mongolian-born residents in 2001).[1] Newcastle upon Tyne is thought to be home to 100 Mongolians whilst between 60 and 70 reside in Leicester and no greater than 60 call Bradford home. An investigation by the International Organization for Migration also found evidence of a number of Mongolians also residing in Brighton, Liverpool, Milton Keynes, Nottingham and the university towns of Cambridge, Oxford, Dundee and Cardiff.[1][/quote]I think that suggests that the total number of Mongolians near you in in the dozens, optimistically. If you work out the odds on meeting one, I think they come out comparable to a lottery jackpot.
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[i]Holy thread necromancing batman.[/i]
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I remember when this thread was [i]new[/i]. These just keep popping up from time to time, ey?
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[quote name='DarklyDreaming' timestamp='1322439131' post='4888266']
[i]Holy thread necromancing batman.[/i]
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I remember when this thread was [i]new[/i]. These just keep popping up from time to time, ey?
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LOL what's great is I was going to post about my friend's experience but then saw that I had already done so 2 years ago.
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