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I feel that I am ready to start programming 3d and I would like to know which OpenGL book is the best to start out with? I have heard that "OpenGL Game Programming" is good and that "The Red Book" and "The Blue Book" are good too, though I wonder if these are good to start with? "The OpenGL SuperBible" has had good critics too. To my knowledge "The Blue Book" is nothing but a reference (but a quite complete one). Lastly, I would like you to write about some pros and cons for both Direct3D and OpenGL. /Thanks

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Red book, blue book, and Superbible = great. Blue book is only a reference book, but that is a good thing on those days you forget the variables to glTransform() or the flags you can use in glBegin(). Use a combination of the red book and superbible to learn opengl.

I''m not going to touch on pros and cons of Direct3D and OpenGL because

a) I don''t want to start a flamewar
b) I haven''t really used Direct3D, while I have used OpenGL
c) You seem to want to use OpenGL anyways, so why bother?

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Welcome to the message board, im sure you''ve noticed the search button to the upper-right hand side of your screen. Trust me - the archives are HUGE and you can find at least 5 massive threads debating the pros & cons of each of the api''s you mentioned. Try there first before trying to start another annoying discussion concerning the subject.

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If you were going to get one book on openGL - I would get the Red Book (The OpenGL Programming Guide). There are a lot of good game programming books out there - just look around and read the reviews.

I myself don''t do too much game programming, just OpenGL stuff. In my collection I have:

SGI''s OpenGL Global Education::OpenGL textbooks (From the OpenGL course I took with SGI)
The OpenGL Programmers guide (The Red Book)
The OpenGL Reference Manual (The Blue Book)
OpenGL Programming for the X windows System (The Green Book)
The OpenGL SuperBible.
OpenGeometry: OpenGL + Advanced Geometry

Plus many C, C++, and Java books. I program on the X windows/Motif platform most of the time for work. But once you find the platform that you are working with (Windoes, Linix, Mac) pick up a good book on programming for that system. It will help out tremendiously!

Roach

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i have red book, going to buy blue (when money comes) but don''t know for SuperBible. Is it worth of money if i have Red book already?

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No - probibly not. The Superbible is good - but the Red book is much better!

Roach

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Yes, the SuperBible is worth it. I have both books, and where one fails, the other one supports it. For example, the SuperBible has a much better explanation on using OpenGL with the WinAPI than the Red Book, but the Red Book has a better section on Blending. The Red Book in general explains subjects better, but the SuperBible has a section on how to make shadows. So, I''d get both. They closely parallel each other, but they are both worth it.

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OpenGL Game Programming covers more than the Superbible does. We made sure of that.

The Red Book is good as a reference on how to do something, but I don''t see it of value for someone starting out.

Kevin

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quote:
Original post by Khawk
OpenGL Game Programming covers more than the Superbible does. We made sure of that.

The Red Book is good as a reference on how to do something, but I don''t see it of value for someone starting out.

Kevin


I used it starting out (Okay, so I used the superbible first, up to about chapter 5, then I used the red book), it was pretty good.

I''m going to have to get your book now, Khawk. I''ve heard too much about your book (plus Nehe contributed a lot), and I''ll have to add it to my collection. You''re evil, wasting my money!!!





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