# A compromise machine

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LilBudyWizer    491

So, yeah, it's gloating rights. She makes $180k/year and I make nothing. So whatever she wants she gets. We can afford to keep one machine up at that level on an ongoing basis. I've been buying computers for going on 30 years. That's what I've found to be important, the habit you can afford to feed. If you can't afford to keep it up to date then don't bother. Plus I figured it would be fun to build a machine. I haven't done so in a long time. #### Share this post ##### Link to post ##### Share on other sites bzroom 647 Yea but to play Wow? i mean at least play some solitaire on it.. #### Share this post ##### Link to post ##### Share on other sites LilBudyWizer 491 Virtually every major game on the market is built to run just fine on a four yo$300 machine, i.e. a console. My PC is three years old and runs most every game just fine. If you think 120 fps is twice as good as 60 fps and four times better than 30 fps then I guess some game is worth paying $2k-$3k for a gaming rig to play it. Apparently the vast majority of the market finds a $300 machine does just fine. What I'm hoping makes it worth it is editing, processing and transcoding video. Space isn't a real issue. Starting out about 40GB raw input is about it. It's enough to be useful and demonstrate the concept. Hopefully once I'm through that I can set it up quickly, batch it and process it overnight. Starting out I'll be doing it manually. I'm going to have to figure out exactly what I want to do. So a lot of editing and re-editing of videos. #### Share this post ##### Link to post ##### Share on other sites _the_phantom_ 11250 Building a machine like that and you went for a GTX 275 over an HD5870? You did it wrong. #### Share this post ##### Link to post ##### Share on other sites LilBudyWizer 491 That's not really a comparable GPU. The 5850 would be closer, but costs 1/3rd more while only performing maybe 1/5th better. The problem is you start paying a little bit more for a little bit better performance and, pretty soon, you're paying a whole lot more for a marginally faster machine. #### Share this post ##### Link to post ##### Share on other sites LilBudyWizer 491 Well, I got all the pieces and put it together. Actually I put it together three times. I started out just trying to figure out what plugs in where which led to a mess of wires. So I redid it so it was tider. Then I found the drives were in the way of the GPU and several of the wires as well so I had to move the drives. The only problem I found was the wire for the front panel HD Audio was too short. The actual plug is the far corner of the motherboard from the front panel. It reachs, but it has to run diagonally across the motherboard. Also there's no speaker in the case so I guess I'll be guessing if there's a problem at boot. #### Share this post ##### Link to post ##### Share on other sites LilBudyWizer 491 Quote:  Original post by TalrothYou,... you spent$2500 for a computer with the goal of being able to play WoW on? WoW, a game designed to cater to computers that can be had for $300 these days?So, was there a point to this thread? :P or were you just gloating?Personally I would have gone with 1.5TB drives in a RAID setup over the Raptor. You end up with fairly similar performance specs for similar cost, but far far more storage space. I thought about it and decided you were right. Best Buy had the VelociRaptor on sale for$190 so I got a second one to run Raid 0. I also got a WD 1TB Black to use as a backup drive.

When it comes to WoW she seems stuck now at 1k fps, just can't get above that frame rate. Within Ironforge she can sustain about 200 fps, but when she get in Dalarian she drops to the 30-60 fps range depending upon which way she faces. I don't raid so I don't know how Dalarian compares to raid instances in terms of primative counts.

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The WoW frame drops in certain towns are due to Windows memory management and there's not much that hardware do about it.

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_the_phantom_    11250
Quote:
 Original post by LilBudyWizerThat's not really a comparable GPU. The 5850 would be closer, but costs 1/3rd more while only performing maybe 1/5th better. The problem is you start paying a little bit more for a little bit better performance and, pretty soon, you're paying a whole lot more for a marginally faster machine.

Who was going for 'comparable'?

You can't put an Intel i7-975 extreme processor in the machine and then go on to say about 'paying a little bit more for a little bit better performance'.

Which is why I said the 5870 which is nearly twice as fast as the card you selected in WoW (link) and doesn't cost twice as much.

While I'm here;
- Triple channel ram does not 'make sense'. Certainly not on this machine. A dual channel s1156 machine would have been fine and done for some time. Memory benchmark tests show a minor increase and real world tests find next to none. Pretty much the ONLY reason to run a triple channel system is because you want the ram (and then I'd argue you'd want to be shooting for 12gig and up), not for speed.

- SSD vs HD for game launching; I'm running all my Steam games off an SSD now, honestly? Hardly notice a difference. SSDs are great for boot, and probably great for industry but unless you are doing something with alot of IOPs in flight there isn't a great deal of difference.

So yeah; you did it wrong.

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LilBudyWizer    491