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OpenGL When we meets OpenGL 1.3?

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phueppl1    122
I''m waiting for OpenGL 1.2 first.... it might take some months till it''s available on Windows Systems.. OpenGL 1.3? maybe a few years?

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Maximus    124
What do you mean 1.2 will take months? Ive been using it for years.

The software driver that comes with windows is only 1.1, but the drivers for most (if not all) hardware is upto 1.2.

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SirKnight    316
I dont know if this will work on non nvidia cards but if you want to use opengl 1.2, you can enable it through an extension. GL_VERSION_1_2 is the name of the extension. I use it and it works great.

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Ingenu    1629
It''s only OpenGL1.1 on windows systems, but drivers are made for 1.2 and you can access 1.2 features through the extensions mechanism, however it''s not 1.2.

If it was 1.2 you shouldn''t have to access standard 1.2 functions through extensions.

OpenGL1.3 should be out soon, I hope they''ll release new Red and Blue books very soon after availability.

M$ just don''t like to have to deal with something they have no control over, that''s why they don''t update the OpenGL version in windows.
(They promote DirectX that way)


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GKW    200
I thought they were releasing 1.3 at siggraph next weekend.

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mittens    1323
*sigh* I really wish I could attend this kind of stuff... And, since I can''t, I really wish they could tell us all this stuff on some geek only channel... And since they can''t, I really wish I could attend this kind of stuff.

But, really, OGL 1.3 is nice in concept, but, how long until windows (the dominant OS) is going to even give us 1.2. I mean, without Windows... OGL will lose some programmers.

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asaari    122
anyone know if they are going to make some of the current extensions like multitextureing and lightmapping standard with the next update?

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gmcbay    130
IIRC multitexturing is a standard feature on OpenGL 1.2...The reason its still accessed through the extention mechanism is that OpenGL for Windows is still at 1.1, despite the 1.2 spec being finalized since forever.

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It is not a problem if Krosoft does not release an OpenGl 1.2 implementation!

If you have a decent graphic card, her driver support it.

If you have an old hardware, you can use the MESA software implementation.

And if you''re not happy with Billou, simply install Linux or buy a Mac!

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Ranger_One    300
why don''t some smart programmers... (I''d volunteer) write an installer & build an implementation of OGL 1.2 for windows? If the support for 1.2 is in the opengl video drivers, can this be that hard?

Ranger

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Null and Void    1088
quote:
Original post by Ranger_One
why don''t some smart programmers... (I''d volunteer) write an installer & build an implementation of OGL 1.2 for windows? If the support for 1.2 is in the opengl video drivers, can this be that hard?


SGI already did. Microsoft won''t let them release it, and just ignores it. Microsoft wrote one too, it''s been going through ''testing'' for way over a year now (from what I read in the ARB meeting notes).

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GKW    200

Info on OpenGL 1.3


Then I just have to wait for nvidia to leak the drivers.

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Alamar    256
What? What''s this I hear?

Wow...from all the talk in the OpenGL vs DX debates, I was under the impression OpenGL only had one version and that it supports everything that''s coming out in the next 300 years...

G''luck,
-Alamar

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Null and Void    1088
quote:
Original post by Alamar

What? What''s this I hear?



Wow...from all the talk in the OpenGL vs DX debates, I was under the impression OpenGL only had one version and that it supports everything that''s coming out in the next 300 years...




OpenGL supports anything that can be made into an extension in any version. New versions mean that extensions become standard features, and you can always expect a 100% complient set of drivers to have that feature instead of testing for it first .

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Zerosignull    122
u c there is one problem with opengl ... its too bloody good!! i meen look at it version 1.1 has been around since about 1995 and has been desighed in such a way that this veriosn could posibly go on forever (still want 1.3 though) just goes show how u should create software!!!

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Obelix    122
Sarcasm about something you do not understand is not a good idea. I have the impression that Alamar thinks the new version is about support for new features like a new version of DX.

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Slinger    122
Do you really think that Microsoft will even bother releasing 1.2 when 1.3 is here. (that is if they ever do release something, I dont think they ever will)

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Ecko    122
I stopped caring about microsoft. If we all develop games or other programs with 1.3 and windows isn''t supported then we''ll have to develop for linux and other operating systems. Microsoft will learn sooner or later

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_Buster_    122
Yeah,

I know that like most of the people are using Windows, so if you develop for another OS, you won't make a lot of sales / get popularity, but if you want Microsoft to change, going along with their schemes isn't going to help. I too have finally given up on caring about MS, I just use their stuff. I hope MS has a change of heart (yeah, right), and decides to make available 1.3. Where's a good OpenGL chat? I've given up on NeHe's... =[
but who am I to tell you all what to do? I still program for Windows (because I don't have Linux).

IT'S TIME TO START A REVOLUTION!

_Buster_

oh by the way Buster != _BUSTER_


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