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the space pirate demo that comes with the book crashes every time during the initialization. plus the sdk that came with the book was pretty messed up, after the installation, i had to copy and paste some items manually from temp folder, anyway, now it supports the all the 3d samples that came with the sdk, but i still cant get it to work with your demos (there''re 2 messageboxes, the first one says "Failed to create display device", and the 2nd one, "Unable to intitiallize direct3d"). i know you are just the author, you are not responsible for stuff like this, but i dont know who else to contact, by the way, your book is great, keep up the good work

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-Do you have the right DX version installed (Win95/Win2k edition, DX7 or DX8, don''t know what it needs)

-Does your computer have an 3D accelarator? I believe the book is DX8, so it really needs one.

I''m not LostLogic, but it seems more to be a Device problem than a code problem...

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Hello Fitore,

Did you install the SDK by using the installation program that comes with the CD? Some people have bypassed the CD install program that Prima developed, unsucessfully.

Also, what kind of video card do you have? Your OS and other system spec information would help as well.

Thanks!


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Author, Multiplayer Game Programming

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i dont think its the sdk, as i mentioned, all the 3d samples that came with the dx8 sdk work perfectly well, and yes, my card supports 3d acc,
here is my system info:
laptop, celeron 400, 68 ram, TRIDENT CYBER9525DVD(v card), 2.5G vedio mem,
and i did not bypass the installation program, but then i had to go back to the temp folder to find the help doc and all the samples, because the install program missed them somehow
u know what, ill just reinstall everything(the source code and the sdk), and ill get back to you tonight

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I am concerned a bit that your laptop will not display the graphics properly though. Trident cards are not exactly top-notch 3d accelerators. Do you have a different machine?

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nope, im 17 and im living by myself, it would be a while before i can afford another computer, but i guess i can try it on my friends'' computer,
and by the way, i just reinstalled the sdk, its like the install program missed the whole 3d part or something, now none of the 3d samples work, and when i tried to test the agp texturing with the diagnostic tool, my whole system crashed, and when i looked into the mssdk folder, the uninstall program is also corrupted,

thanx for your time, and ill get back to you after i test everything on my friend''s machine

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now i have just confirmed that my hardware is not a factor, i installed the sdk on my buddy's 800 mhz, geforce2 machine, and we encountered the exact same problems, and i think the only logical explaination is your sdk is corrupted,
do you think i should contact the publisher to ask for another copy of the cd,

Edited by - Fitore on August 14, 2001 6:11:43 PM

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I''m still having the problem with initialization myself. Posted this a while back. It''s not my install of DirectX or my video drivers. Both Space Pirates and RPGQuest will work the first time, then if I try to run them or any other DirectX based program it will give me an error.

I''ve searched through the code trying to find a fix but to no avail.

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how exactly did you install the sdk,
here is what i did:
after clicking the green hyper link in the dx section, i waited about 20 min, then this save window poped up, so i saved the zip file on my desktop. and then i double clicked on the zip file, unzipped everything into the temp folder, i tried to use winzip to install the program directly, but that didnt happen, so i had to go to the temp folder and run the installation program from there.
i repeated these several times on mine and my buddy's machine, well, you know the rest, its like everything is properly installed except the 3d stuff

Edited by - Fitore on August 15, 2001 10:29:46 AM

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Have you tried to download the SDK from Microsofts website? (www.microsoft.com/directx)

I know that is not much of an answer to your problem but it does sound like an SDK installation issue. If the 3D examples from the SDK do not work then my demos will not work either.

Keep me posted.


LostLogic
www.lostlogic.com
Author, Multiplayer Game Programming

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Hi there - just thought I''d drop by. Just bought your book in the UK and tried to install the SDK myself (on a machine with a just-about fresh install of WinME). Microsoft''s DX8 SDK install program seems to stop suddenly at around 23% completion, leaving very little of the SDK installed (no docs, very few demos). The amount installed changes on whether you ask for a complete or custom install, but I haven''t had it complete an installation yet. Parts of it are usable, but the high end SDK demos don''t run - nice book, shame about Microsoft''s installer!

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oh brother, thats exactly what happened to me,
and i most stinky thing is, i email the publisher for like a hundred time, and got no reply.
you know andre lamothe''s book had a corrupted cd too, i send them an email, and they sent me a new, fully functional cd right away,
so here is to lostlogic, if you and your publishers dont care about us readers, dont count on us to buy a second book from you
:-<

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Fitore,

I understand your frustration, but believe me, I have no control over how fast the publisher responds to you. I will send them an email and ask what can be done.

I''ll keep you posted.


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www.lostlogic.com
Author, Multiplayer Game Programming

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I haven''t confirmed this, but I believe the SDK on the cd has truncated filenames under the Include direcory for the DX header files.

My system too has puked since the installation. I''m gonna look into the issue over the weekend when i have more time.

I''m guessing downloading the SDK direct might help...

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I too have had problems with installing the sdk, FROM BOTH OPENGL GAME PROGRAMMING and MULTIPLAYER GAME PROGRAMMING books made by primatech. I guess they hired the same F*$#N MORON to create the cd''s for both books. Jesus i wish they would check their work before sending it out like this...not once, but twice!

Anyways, my unzips a lot, if not all the sdk files to windows/temp, but the installer craps out also at about 20%.

Lostlogic, you said people are "MANUALLY" installing the sdk. Can you alude me to what exactly they are doing?? I WILL ONLY DOWNLOAD THE SDK FROM INTERNET AS LAST RESORT, since it looks like i have all the files here.

thanks, and i know you are not the publisher.

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well, i tried to download the sdk redlist, but with my netzero connection, it jammed before i was half way there, i tried to email the publisher again, for the ninth time, but i guess they just dont give a f*ck about us readers, i swear god i will not buy another book from the motherf*cking primatech ever again

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Fitore, just for future reference, when you try downloading something huge from a slow modem, like mine and yours, use a download program that has the capability to "resume" a download if the connection breaks. Examples include gozilla and getright. Although sometimes a server wont let u use these progs, it really saves the day on huge 50mb files sometimes....

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