# reason i love my wife

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So the wife and I got a new computer last weekend. It has been 5 years since we got a new one, so the specs seemed off the charts compared to the one we had. We had ubuntu installed on the old one before the hardware died.

So we bring this computer home. I boot it up, its got windows 7. I am thinking to myself, she used windows before and liked it. Always said she needed windows to print out coupons or whatever.

She played resturant city for a few days and commented on how much faster the game plays. I never really got a go on the windows as I didn't want to go through with installing python and all the other programming languages from the websites and stuff.

Then one day. Danny (my wife) says to me.

"Ahh I hate windows. I have to do too much crap just to do something. Install ubuntu."

She was right too. I also hated the start menu, with it being so cluttered. The way I have to download things from websites instead of a repository. The clunky control panel that takes forever to load. Oh and let's not forget all of the shit programs that are included with a walmart bought dell. I was missing the simple, it just works, ubuntu.

And now that ubuntu is up and running. My wife feels at home. And it is running way better then our last computer. I am in heaven

Now to download wine and directx to play some "back to the future"

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Funny you should mention python

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So the wife and I got a new computer last weekend. It has been 5 years since we got a new one, so the specs seemed off the charts compared to the one we had. We had ubuntu installed on the old one before the hardware died.

So we bring this computer home. I boot it up, its got windows 7. I am thinking to myself, she used windows before and liked it. Always said she needed windows to print out coupons or whatever.

She played resturant city for a few days and commented on how much faster the game plays. I never really got a go on the windows as I didn't want to go through with installing python and all the other programming languages from the websites and stuff.

Then one day. Danny (my wife) says to me.

"Ahh I hate windows. I have to do too much crap just to do something. Install ubuntu."

She was right too. I also hated the start menu, with it being so cluttered. The way I have to download things from websites instead of a repository. The clunky control panel that takes forever to load. Oh and let's not forget all of the shit programs that are included with a walmart bought dell. I was missing the simple, it just works, ubuntu.

And now that ubuntu is up and running. My wife feels at home. And it is running way better then our last computer. I am in heaven

Now to download wine and directx to play some "back to the future"

For me it was the other way around. I was starting to really like Ubuntu because I use it on my work machine, but then Win 7 came out. It looks really good and I really don't like hunting for settings so I love the new search in the start menu. Installing from the repo on Ubuntu is great but the first thing after installing is wondering how do you start the new program On Windows you get helpful installers and the start menu shows the most recently installed stuff. But that is my experience with Win7 as a home machine. Doesn't feel so good for developing because the console window is not so good and command line tools are too basic.

But yeah, everyone hates that preinstalled stuff that comes with the computer...

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So what you're trying to tell us is that you love your wife because she's like 90% of the rest of the population, in that she's incapable of switching to any other interface than the one she's used to using. Maybe that's because you fall into the same category, and realize on an instinctual level that if she were much smarter than you maybe she wouldn't bother sticking around.

They love each other and they both love Ubuntu and Ubuntu got no problem sharing the love. So let them be and enjoy the joy. Why be a grouch?

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I think he's still trying to make a point by getting us annoyed that we can't rate him down for a rather asinine post. At least, that's the only thing I can think of for deliberately being a jerk

If that's his plan he seems to be failing rather miserably, considering the number of upvotes he's getting.

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I miss the good old days when the lounge consisted of political flamewars, MindWipe's drunk posts and references to the place that does not exist. I also miss being able to inflict horrible internet retribution on people who are being dicks without reason by downrating them.

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Wow, when i woke up this morning i only expected like one or two posts. Maybe something like: I like windows, or i like ubuntu too. Not someone who says that my wife and i are dumb-asses and my wife is going to dumb my ass for some stupid reason.

So SORRY for liking my wife's preference of operating systems. And SORRY you can't accept other's people choices even if they are in this 90% over generalized range you speak of.

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Wow, when i woke up this morning i only expected like one or two posts. Maybe something like: I like windows, or i like ubuntu too. Not someone who says that my wife and i are dumb-asses and my wife is going to dumb my ass for some stupid reason.

So SORRY for liking my wife's preference of operating systems. And SORRY you can't accept other's people choices even if they are in this 90% over generalized range you speak of.

I would think you were half intelligent if you did a dual install and played your games on windows but if you honestly think using wine makes more sense than windows for video games then I'm going to have to jump on the bandwagon and tell you that your logic fails hard...

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[quote name='Enders' timestamp='1298822451' post='4779685']
Wow, when i woke up this morning i only expected like one or two posts. Maybe something like: I like windows, or i like ubuntu too. Not someone who says that my wife and i are dumb-asses and my wife is going to dumb my ass for some stupid reason.

So SORRY for liking my wife's preference of operating systems. And SORRY you can't accept other's people choices even if they are in this 90% over generalized range you speak of.

I would think you were half intelligent if you did a duel install and played your games on windows but if you honestly think using wine makes more sense than windows for video games then I'm going to have to jump on the bandwagon and tell you that your logic fails hard...
[/quote]The next time you're going to insult someone's intelligence, I suggest you think hard about the difference between dual and duel unless you feel like embarrassing yourself further.

Your argument also depends on OP wanting to run the very latest games; many old gems run like crap or not at all under Windows 7 or even Windows XP, whereas Wine handles them perfectly.

Funny you should mention python
Disregarding the irony of a developer depending on Python 2.x complaining about distros are shipping old versions, why not simply put Python 2.6 as a dependency and explicitly specify #!/usr/bin/python2.6 rather than #!/usr/bin/python as the first line of any executable script?

(Also, complaining about incompatible "broken" Python versions when your application is written in Ruby, a language with no official specification, seems... odd.)

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[quote name='Enders' timestamp='1298822451' post='4779685']
Wow, when i woke up this morning i only expected like one or two posts. Maybe something like: I like windows, or i like ubuntu too. Not someone who says that my wife and i are dumb-asses and my wife is going to dumb my ass for some stupid reason.

So SORRY for liking my wife's preference of operating systems. And SORRY you can't accept other's people choices even if they are in this 90% over generalized range you speak of.

I would think you were half intelligent if you did a duel install and played your games on windows but if you honestly think using wine makes more sense than windows for video games then I'm going to have to jump on the bandwagon and tell you that your logic fails hard...
[/quote]If you're going to insult someone's intelligence, then I suggest you learn the difference between dual and duel. Your argument also depends on OP wanting to run the very latest games; many old gems run like crap or not at all under Windows 7 or even Windows XP, whereas Wine handles them perfectly.

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Cut the guy a break, he just installed Linux. Of course he's cranky! He's been up all night scouring the web for the encyclopedia length mailing list posts he needs to read through to get every simple thing half working.

BTW, How many gigabytes worth of needless 'gpl.txt' duplicate files is Linux up to now?

I think this may very well be the year o[s]f the Linux Desktop[/s] that Richard Stallman takes a bath, shaves, and cuts his hair.

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[quote name='SteveDeFacto' timestamp='1298824010' post='4779691']
[quote name='Enders' timestamp='1298822451' post='4779685']
Wow, when i woke up this morning i only expected like one or two posts. Maybe something like: I like windows, or i like ubuntu too. Not someone who says that my wife and i are dumb-asses and my wife is going to dumb my ass for some stupid reason.

So SORRY for liking my wife's preference of operating systems. And SORRY you can't accept other's people choices even if they are in this 90% over generalized range you speak of.

I would think you were half intelligent if you did a duel install and played your games on windows but if you honestly think using wine makes more sense than windows for video games then I'm going to have to jump on the bandwagon and tell you that your logic fails hard...
[/quote]If you're going to insult someone's intelligence, then I suggest you learn the difference between dual and duel. Your argument also depends on OP wanting to run the very latest games; many old gems run like crap or not at all under Windows 7 or even Windows XP, whereas Wine handles them perfectly.
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OK, then I guess he should have installed vista instead. I am running vista and have almost no problems running old games.

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[quote name='valderman' timestamp='1298825005' post='4779701']
[quote name='SteveDeFacto' timestamp='1298824010' post='4779691']
[quote name='Enders' timestamp='1298822451' post='4779685']
Wow, when i woke up this morning i only expected like one or two posts. Maybe something like: I like windows, or i like ubuntu too. Not someone who says that my wife and i are dumb-asses and my wife is going to dumb my ass for some stupid reason.

So SORRY for liking my wife's preference of operating systems. And SORRY you can't accept other's people choices even if they are in this 90% over generalized range you speak of.

I would think you were half intelligent if you did a duel install and played your games on windows but if you honestly think using wine makes more sense than windows for video games then I'm going to have to jump on the bandwagon and tell you that your logic fails hard...
[/quote]If you're going to insult someone's intelligence, then I suggest you learn the difference between dual and duel. Your argument also depends on OP wanting to run the very latest games; many old gems run like crap or not at all under Windows 7 or even Windows XP, whereas Wine handles them perfectly.
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OK, then I guess he should have installed vista instead. I am running vista and have almost no problems running old games.
[/quote]That's great, your old games work on Vista; mine don't. There are also most likely lots of games that run just fine under both. Would you care to explain why choosing either method to run said games would have any bearing on one's intelligence?

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What's wrong with DosBox (the emulator) and VirtualBox (or VirtualPC) - when it comes to old games? I'm a customer of GOG, so I played a lot of old games.

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Well, why not just run Wine under Windows if it's able to run the old games?

(Yes, Wine also runs under Windows!)

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Oh and let's not forget all of the shit programs that are included with a walmart bought dell.

well there's ur problem right there...

And what's wrong with the windows 7 start bar? I find it much more useful than XPs, and there are options to get it to work pretty much exactly like the XP start bar. My control panel also loads just as fast as it ever did on XP.

Most of your problems lead me to believe you saw problems and jumped to linus rather than looking into solving the problem, because most of the problems you gave are a function of windows 7's default configuration and are easily solved by spending 15 minutes poking around.

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Acer has always been good about default Windows OS installs. They include:

1 Windows OS
Acer Hotkey program that is easily removed
That's it.

What are the problems with the Windows 7 bar? I could never go back to the old ones now.

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[quote name='Enders' timestamp='1298822451' post='4779685']
Wow, when i woke up this morning i only expected like one or two posts. Maybe something like: I like windows, or i like ubuntu too. Not someone who says that my wife and i are dumb-asses and my wife is going to dumb my ass for some stupid reason.

So SORRY for liking my wife's preference of operating systems. And SORRY you can't accept other's people choices even if they are in this 90% over generalized range you speak of.

I would think you were half intelligent if you did a dual install and played your games on windows but if you honestly think using wine makes more sense than windows for video games then I'm going to have to jump on the bandwagon and tell you that your logic fails hard...
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Ahh give him a break. He's obviously not a technical person...buying a gaming computer from walmart and all. =D

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When I got my first Mac I wasn't to crazy about OSX but now I'd rather use a Mac then Windows. I guess that must mean Win7 sucks donkey balls.

So you want to stick with what is familiar and think what is different sucks, how is that different from most people? How many times did your wife say Linux sucked and she wanted to go back to Windows when you first make the change? Considering how much hand holding that WIndows does for the average user I'm going to say more then once.

My dad still has XP, after using Win7 for a year, that does suck donkey balls. You couldn't pay me money to switch back to XP.

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[quote name='SteveDeFacto' timestamp='1298824010' post='4779691']
[quote name='Enders' timestamp='1298822451' post='4779685']
Wow, when i woke up this morning i only expected like one or two posts. Maybe something like: I like windows, or i like ubuntu too. Not someone who says that my wife and i are dumb-asses and my wife is going to dumb my ass for some stupid reason.

So SORRY for liking my wife's preference of operating systems. And SORRY you can't accept other's people choices even if they are in this 90% over generalized range you speak of.

I would think you were half intelligent if you did a dual install and played your games on windows but if you honestly think using wine makes more sense than windows for video games then I'm going to have to jump on the bandwagon and tell you that your logic fails hard...
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Ahh give him a break. He's obviously not a technical person...buying a gaming computer from walmart and all. =D
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Give yourself a break. You're obviously out of the loop. Who even said he was buying a gaming computer? His wife has been playing restau rant and he's running dos games with wine.

[quote name =jtagge75 timestamp='1298829842']
When I got my first Mac I wasn't to crazy about OSX but now I'd rather use a Mac then Windows. I guess that must mean Win7 sucks donkey balls.

So you want to stick with what is familiar and think what is different sucks, how is that different from most people? How many times did your wife say Linux sucked and she wanted to go back to Windows when you first make the change? Considering how much hand holding that WIndows does for the average user I'm going to say more then once.

My dad still has XP, after using Win7 for a year, that does suck donkey balls. You couldn't pay me money to switch back to XP.
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Use a Mac?

That's priceless!

Because Macs suck donkey balls!

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[quote name='MaulingMonkey' timestamp='1298788719' post='4779554']
Funny you should mention python
Disregarding the irony of a developer depending on Python 2.x complaining about distros are shipping old versions, why not simply put Python 2.6 as a dependency and explicitly specify #!/usr/bin/python2.6 rather than #!/usr/bin/python as the first line of any executable script?

(Also, complaining about incompatible "broken" Python versions when your application is written in Ruby, a language with no official specification, seems... odd.)
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Actually, most python devs who have 3rd party dependencies are stuck with 2.7 for the near future. Only recently has it been a good time for the big frameworks and other modules that many people use to port to 3.x because the moratorium on new features in 3.x branch resulting in a stable API to target, as well as bugfix only for 2.7. So it really isn't unusual.

Furthermore, specifying a specific python version in the shebang is really quite crude, especially since he supports multiple python versions. There's no way to exclude particular versions in the shebang. There's no guarantee people have that version, so you're artificially limiting the usefulness of your code, which is just plain retarded.

And even further, you're doing it wrong. You're not guaranteed to find a python executable at /usr/bin/ so we've been forced to use #!/usr/bin/env python for a while now, because *nix is a clusterfuck with regard to where things might actually be.

He could easily however, do something like this:

 import sys if sys.version_info.major == 2 and sys.version_info.minor < 6: print "Oh noes!" exit()