Hello due to the lack of common logicalness in the apis today im having troubles working out this bloody cordinate system for glvertex i understand after 3 days of hassle and emotional pain that it works off by telling opengl where you put the point to which reperesents that area position of the vertex and then opengl takes that and puts the vertex where that point is based off the x,y cordinates that you place within glVertex2f(100,100) or whateva then you create more blah blah blah you get the idea


But more my problem is where do i put the points??? exactly i know it based of the glortho projection but whats the general idea for most common sizes basically speaking

By the way
there are no grids that iv followed or even books that tell this("that im aware of") and in "detail" its stupidity at best and i wish i didnt even have to come to a forum because i couldnt get my answer from there official irc or even the books and don't tell me i should have maths before doing OpenGL i know that but i want to do it the hard way because it works for me if i made a mistake somewhere tell me nicely anyways


but the real main point is i need a visual picture of a grid so i can reference it to work from Oh! and if possible could someone tell me the vertex order like when you call glvertex2f and call glvertex2f again then again what vertex angle position is selected by opengl that for a GL_QUAD i couldn't find out maybe i didn't see it prehaps

sorry to get angered but i am because im annoyed at myself for having to come to a forum to ask for help when i should be able to do it on my own mainly because its tedious for stupid reasons in my honest opinion if you do decide to help me thank you

please explain in a way anyone could understand rather then geek talk it helps alot for people like me the best way to learn is too not speak another language to someone who doesn't know

i just want the general idea thats structurely explained with some amount of detail in a common knowledge kinda way so i can understand it with as little effort as possible and with that statement it as if there is provokertive effort for me to go learn more and more that i could be taught in a few minutes of writing so essentially i still want to learn about how the grids actually work in a general sense with the effort but just not as much as the provoketive ways of the writing above me you shouldn't take it the wrong way however just stating my brillant perception of it

on that note
the reason i do this is to have fun with coding not because im truely lazy otherwise i wouldn't do it