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[quote name='swiftcoder' timestamp='1337783049' post='4942559']
[quote name='JTippetts' timestamp='1337768914' post='4942493']
Well, in the absence of any usable loot drops at all since A3Normal.[/quote]
That's... Odd. My character in nightmare is reliably getting Legendary drops every few minutes, and quite a number of them trump the best auction house gear from normal mode. I'm curious how pimped out your gear must have been to not be matched yet in nightmare...
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Not odd at all. RNG. I get drops, but they tend to be bad stats or unusable. Mighty weapons, barbarian belts, stuff like that. I did finally upgrade my weapon in Act 3 this morning. (To a big-ass sword. *sigh*) and my amulet to something with pretty good Int and MF. But the vast majority (ie, everything but sword and ammy) are all sub-L27 equipment.

What [i]I[/i] find odd is your curious claim that you get Legendaries every few minutes. Very odd. Either the RNG gods have a weird, stalky crush on you, you have god-like MF, or you're exaggerating. Greatly exaggerating, based on what I've seen of posts on the forums about the frequency of legendary drops.

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[quote]Rune unlocks: I like the ones I have. Arcane Torrent + Disruption, Chain Lightning, Magic Weapon, Familiar+Sparkflint, Wave of Force (or Fus Ro Dah, as I like to call it), and the ubiquitous Diamond Skin that every Wizard has to take. (Wait, tell me again how we won't be required to take any one spell, but can choose whatever spells we want?)[/quote]
You are playing a stand-and-channel mage, but taking 2 melee skills? You're doing it wrong ;)

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I'm trying to understand this statement, but I can't. Which ones are melee skills again? The Chain Lightning, perhaps? You know, the crackly stuff that arcs all the way across the screen. Maybe it's the Arcane torrent? You know, the other one that I have that arcs across the screen? Surely you don't mean Magic Weapon or Sparkflint; those are pure damage increases. Perhaps it's the Wave of Force (the skill you so helpfully suggested I take just a couple sentences later). So, I reckon you think it's Diamond Skin I shouldn't take. You know, the one that helpfully lets me stand and channel while soaking hits from mortar mobs. Yep, sure that's a melee-only skill. Wait, exactly what is the difference between melee (stand and swing) and arcane torrent (stand and channel) again? Maybe I'm a baddie, but I just don't understand exactly what you're criticizing me for, here. Diamond Skin soaks damage; for a guy that wants to stand in one spot and channel Arcane Torrent, I'm having a hard time understanding exactly why you would have a problem with that.

I could conceivably see using Frost Nova in lieu of Diamond Skin, but to me it's apples and oranges; the rate of killing isn't any different. And having Diamond Skin on my toolbar gives me a good oh shit button against mortars who might be out of range of nova when the stuff hits the fan.

Still, that's one skill that arguably might be best for a melee. Still not sure what you meant by two.

At any rate, it's all an academic exercise anyway. I uninstalled the client at lunch today. I won't be asking for a refund or anything, though. It just might happen that Blizzard eventually patches this thing and gets it out of beta state, at which point I'll give it a second chance. But as it stand now, Act 3 Nightmare is my ending spot. It's for the best anyway; it's been cutting into my Goblinson Crusoe development.
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[quote name='JTippetts' timestamp='1337816093' post='4942726']
Not odd at all. RNG. I get drops, but they tend to be bad stats or unusable. Mighty weapons, barbarian belts, stuff like that. I did finally upgrade my weapon in Act 3 this morning. (To a big-ass sword. *sigh*) and my amulet to something with pretty good Int and MF. But the vast majority (ie, everything but sword and ammy) are all sub-L27 equipment.
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I know you uninstalled, but what level were you to not have any upgrades since Act 3 normal? And I also guess, what have you been going after in terms of stats? I'm starting to regret my path with all +xp and +magic gear finding as I just hit Act 2 in Nightmare, and having a hard time survivng without major kiting. But then again, having +83% find magic gear probably has helped me get a constant stream of upgrades.

I'm not sure how much longer I'm going to play this, as one of my friends apparently calculated that you'd need a minimum of 20 playthroughs of the game in order to unlock all the achievements. (And to make matters worse, you don't have enough character slots to keep all the necessary characters).
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I refuse to buy D3, the lack of offline mode is a COMPLETE turn off for me. I'm waiting for Torchlight 2 which will have the game play D3 should have.
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[quote name='Nytegard' timestamp='1337823546' post='4942746']
[quote name='JTippetts' timestamp='1337816093' post='4942726']
Not odd at all. RNG. I get drops, but they tend to be bad stats or unusable. Mighty weapons, barbarian belts, stuff like that. I did finally upgrade my weapon in Act 3 this morning. (To a big-ass sword. *sigh*) and my amulet to something with pretty good Int and MF. But the vast majority (ie, everything but sword and ammy) are all sub-L27 equipment.
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I know you uninstalled, but what level were you to not have any upgrades since Act 3 normal? And I also guess, what have you been going after in terms of stats? I'm starting to regret my path with all +xp and +magic gear finding as I just hit Act 2 in Nightmare, and having a hard time survivng without major kiting. But then again, having +83% find magic gear probably has helped me get a constant stream of upgrades.

I'm not sure how much longer I'm going to play this, as one of my friends apparently calculated that you'd need a minimum of 20 playthroughs of the game in order to unlock all the achievements. (And to make matters worse, you don't have enough character slots to keep all the necessary characters).
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I was L43 at uninstall, all my eq except sword and ammy were still pre L27 stuff, sword was L33 ammy was ( I think) 31. I was going for DPS on weap (obviously), Int and Vit. After those three, Magic Find. I was up to probably 900 dps after the sword upgrade, about 3800 life, and had maybe 26% MF. Mind you, I was doing okay. Really, really okay. In the entirety of Normal, I died a single time (it was a lag bump). In Nightmare, I never died. Never had to retreat from anything; a bit of kiting, maybe, but if I saw a pack I took it down and moved on. I was clearing maps through Normal; through Nightmare I wasn't fully exploring but I was hitting most optional branches.

Now that I'm thinking about it, though, that fact right there should have bothered me as well. Why was I clearing Nightmare so smoothly in such sub-par gear? Is gear really not necessary at all, and that's why I wasn't getting anything?

One (somewhat disconcerting) side effect of this D3 interlude has been a resurgence of interest in the ARPG branch of Goblinson Crusoe. Not sure how I like that, but there we are...
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I didn't get much new stuff in NM until the end of act 1. but then it really took off.
I'd say you stopped right about around where the curve starts to bend.
But to each his own.

Swiftcoders getting legendarys "every few minutes" sounds like bullshit. Or a mixup with the yellow "rare"s. Those I get a couple every hour, but mostly stuff I can't use.
In fact, I havn't got one single legendary drop yet, and I'm in Act4 NM.

But I'm doing ok gearwise anyway, and change around a lot as the challenges changes.
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Legendaries every few minutes? I've got one so far (Frostburns) and I got 100 hours played. My friends and everyone else I know playing haven't found many (if any at all) either.

So yeah, probably a mixup with rares.
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[quote name='JTippetts' timestamp='1337833842' post='4942788']
I was L43 at uninstall, all my eq except sword and ammy were still pre L27 stuff, sword was L33 ammy was ( I think) 31. I was going for DPS on weap (obviously), Int and Vit. After those three, Magic Find. I was up to probably 900 dps after the sword upgrade, about 3800 life, and had maybe 26% MF.[/quote]
My wizard is dealing ~875 at level 32, due to a legendary sword with +80 int and a socketed radiant ruby, and legendary gloves with +6-8 attack.

That's the only useful legendary gear have I received (apart from a +dex/+attack amulet on my monk), so 'every few minutes' was an exaggeration, but I'm up to a good 10 legendary drops at this point. My mate who plays with me only had his first legendary drop yesterday, so I guess the RNG gods are not terribly even-handed.

And I'm not confusing them with rares - pretty much all my non-legendary equipment is rare, and it's hardly worth picking up plain 'magical' items anymore.
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[quote name='swiftcoder' timestamp='1337867024' post='4942890']
And I'm not confusing them with rares - pretty much all my non-legendary equipment is rare, and it's hardly worth picking up plain 'magical' items anymore.
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Yes, 1 every couple of hours sounds a lot more reasonable, I guess you are lucky :)
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Always-on DRM in single player, no LAN play, congested and laggy servers (lag must be real fun in hardcore mode...), being forced to beat the game over and over before getting actual challenge, Inferno "challenge" being about buying gear at AH to avoid getting randomly one-shotted instead of having to play well? Sounds fantastic.

I'll consider picking this up when I see it on sale at fraction of the price. Even then, only because it's by Blizzard. No one else has the track record to get me to buy a game despite a bullshit coating this thick.
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[quote name='Stroppy Katamari' timestamp='1338166438' post='4943845']
Always-on DRM in single player, no LAN play, congested and laggy servers (lag must be real fun in hardcore mode...), being forced to beat the game over and over before getting actual challenge, Inferno "challenge" being about buying gear at AH to avoid getting randomly one-shotted instead of having to play well? Sounds fantastic.
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I finally completed Nightmare, and had to put my Monk aside. I know other people stated how they could easily get to inferno with him, but did they do that without buying on the AH? Having low dps, low hp, low everything else, and no real distance attacks is making progression difficult, to say the least. Oh, and after awhile, you start to lose health if you don't manage to kill that elite you've been kiting for the past half an hour.

So apparently Blizzard officially stated that the drop percentage is in relation to how many items are on the AH, which could explain why the drop rate seems bad for certain individuals. (I also don't agree with this, as it is arm-twisting people into using the RMAH).
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[quote name='Nytegard' timestamp='1338171429' post='4943861']
So apparently Blizzard officially stated that the drop percentage is in relation to how many items are on the AH, which could explain why the drop rate seems bad for certain individuals. (I also don't agree with this, as it is arm-twisting people into using the RMAH).
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Do you have a source link for this, by any chance? Because if this is true, then my god... They've officially jumped the shark.
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[quote name='JTippetts' timestamp='1338177005' post='4943873']
[quote name='Nytegard' timestamp='1338171429' post='4943861']
So apparently Blizzard officially stated that the drop percentage is in relation to how many items are on the AH, which could explain why the drop rate seems bad for certain individuals. (I also don't agree with this, as it is arm-twisting people into using the RMAH).
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Do you have a source link for this, by any chance? Because if this is true, then my god... They've officially jumped the shark.
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[url="http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5149013410"]http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5149013410[/url]


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The auction house obviously provides an incredible service to allow for very easy trades between characters, and essentially blows out the wide range of items you could have available to you at any one time. So, in fact, the AH has to be a factor in how we drop items. On one hand you have a huge benefit because you can buy and sell items very easily, as opposed to having to post up WTS threads in the old USEast trading forums, but on the other end it does impact the item pool economy with the inherent ease at which you can trade items.[b] If the AH existed but wasn't a factor at all into how items dropped/rolled, the economy would be completely tanked within a matter of weeks.[/b]
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I want to know what kind of economy a single player game has that requires them altering the loot table for me. Damn I'm glad I got my money back.
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